[technolawyer]

Just a correction. Other than a very minor specs bump, Apple has not updated its Cinema Displays since 2004. The prevailing theory is why update something that continues to sell well. Don't expect any updates anytime soon.

[Chicago]

The cinema displays had a price drop in April 2007.
http://buyersguide.m...mors.com/#AppleCinemaDisplays
http://www.macrumors...inema-displays/
Perhaps moving away from CCFL to LED backlighting will be the next step (as they did with the laptops) or if they don't change the technology perhaps another price drop is due?

[montgomery_burns]

trip1ex said:

Ease of hardware service is called AppleCare. :) OR whatever Apple has for businesses.

How does AppleCare make Mac hardware any easier for technicians to take apart and service?

[trip1ex]

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trip1ex said:

> Ease of hardware service is called AppleCare. :) OR whatever Apple has for businesses.
>

How does AppleCare make Mac hardware any easier for technicians to take apart and service?

Well you said IT dept. I figure you don't need to repair your equipment if you have Applecare. :)

[macxpress]

As a person who owns a first gen 24" aluminum iMac I can say that it doesn't reflect nearly at all. I don't see what people are making such a huge deal about with these glossy screens and glare. I also have a 15" MBP with a glossy screen it doesn't glare at all either. I even use it at work where the lighting is from above instead of just a simple lamp or general window light. Its not that bad at all. I think people are making way too much of the "glare" aspect of a glossy screen. Too many just assume its going to glare bad because its glossy when it doesn't really glare at all.

I also think that people better start getting used to glossy screens because down the road it will be the only choice. You're already starting to see it with other computer manufacturers that for the most part, only offer glossy screens in their products. Unless you need pure color matching, I think anyone should go for a glossy screen. They're so much better than a matte screen for anything other than things dealing with color matching. The picture just looks so much more crisp I think than a matte screen.

[macxpress]

I don't see how anyone would have expected Apple to not go with a glossy screen. With the way the current design is, Apple would have to totally redesign the front of the iMac because of the glass insert overtop of the LCD panel. The glass insert is an integral part of the aluminum design. Its not something that can just be removed for the few people would rather have a matte screen. It would look like the iMac wasn't finished being built or something if they just removed the glass insert. I believe the black around the glass actually hides some extra stuff so you can't see it, but I could be wrong.

[yanwolfy]

The first generation imac 24 inch did have semi opaque semi gloss screen and they were great ! this has nothing to do with the hight gloss of the new generation !!!!

[JScott]

I smell a troll. Anyone else smell that?

[galley]

Re: glare.

If there are lights behind you, they're definitely noticeable in the reflection. But I've found that I can tilt the 24-inch screen slight up or down to eliminate them.

Beyond the lights, other objects will also reflect. But my eyes are about 20 inches from the screen whereas the reflected objects are at least several feet behind me. When my eyes are focused on the screen, any normal reflections are out-of-focus, so are much less noticeable, unless I intentionally switch my focus to them.

So the glossy screen hasn't really been an issue for me. And I love the look.

My only (slight) complaint is that the screen is very bright, even with the brightness control turned all the way down. If I open an empty white window to full screen (I often do this with Safari), I almost feel like I need sunglasses. :-) Unlike with my MacBook, where the minimum brightness setting turns off the screen, that isn't so on the iMac 24-inch.

[dougster]

> In our briefing with Apple, we asked about the glossy screen and their thoughts about matte. They said that customers favor the glossy screen. FWIW.
[/quote]
Hi -R.L.,

Apple should be ashamed a tad. There are so, so many folks out there that would jump on an iMac if it were not glossy. And I can't count how many posts I've read on different forums where they returned their iMacs. Apparently all the returns and websites that put thumbs down on the glossy screen is NO influence for giving an option. I have no degree in business, but maybe it just doesn't make 'cents' to Apple. :_| A matte iMac IMO only, would sell 3 to 1 over glossy...

[lwdesign]

This is what is so nice about having a separate monitor that is matte in finish, I don't have to worry about ANY reflections or in seeing beyond them or refocussing my eyes. Reflections just don't ever happen with my 30" Cinema Display in any way, shape or form. I would have bought a new 24" iMac had it not been for the silly glass screen.

So now when I'm ready to update my G5 tower, it looks like I'll be getting a Mac Pro, or hopefully a mid-tower Mac if Apple answers my prayers in the next year. All I need are 2 PCI slots, enough memory slots to accommodate 4-8GB of RAM, a user-replaceable video card, space for 2 internal 3.5" SATA hard drives, a single Superdrive, 4 external USB 2.0, 2 Firewire 400 and 1 Firewire 800 port, and a range of duo and quad-core Intel CPUs.

Apple execs, please take note. There is a huge demand for this mid-tower headless Mac for professional use so that glossy screens can be avoided -- OR, offer an option of a non-glossy iMac.

[yanwolfy]

I AM HAPY also in USA the same problem does exist with this silly screen ,Screen you do have to bent or to protect from any light or to look only at a certain distance ,or to focus at a certain point etc etc YES all is ridiculous BUT i did like so much the look and the possibilities of the IMAC 24 ,that i did ask Apple France to lend me one of them for two days !of course i am a very good customers at this south of france shop ! my favorite machine that i love and own, being the last mac book pro 17 inches ""Matt Screen"""" OF COURSE, BECAUSE for this portable YOU DO HAVE THE CHOICE OF SCREEN ! AND THE GRAND PUBLIC KNOWING NOTHING RUSH FOR EVERY THING GLOSSY INCLUDING THE WIFE ! AND THE PROFESSIONNELS GO FOR THE MATT screen !AS YOU ALL KNOW IN ALL THE TV SHOPS THEY TRY TO PERSUADE PEOPLE THAT TELEVISION EXTRA GLOSSY ARE THE BEST ! IT IS A TERRIBLE NON SENS AND A VULGAIR FASHION ! Well i got a 24 IMAC for 48 hours and did work on it like with my other computers (all mac ) an average of 6 hours by day NOW AFTER 2 DAYS MY EYES ARE RED CRYING AND I JUST GET OUT OF THE EYES DOCTOR WHO DID PRESCRIBE ME, EYES DROPS ,AND TOLD ME TO ABANDON DEFINITIVELY THAT ULTRA GLOSSY SCREEN ! IN USA I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE MAKING TRIAL TO CORPORATIONS FOR LESS ! AS SAID ONE PERSON IN ONE OF THE PREVIOUS DECLARATIONS: THEY WILL SELL SO MUCH IMAC24 INCHES WITH A NORMAL SCREEN !WHY ARE THEY SO SILLY AND WHY THEY DO NOT DO : WHAT THEY DID WITH THE FIRST GENERATION OF IMAC "POSSIBILITIES OF CHOICE"

[JeffDM]

Guess what? That's one
of many reasons why CRT screens have fallen out of favor and have
largely been replaced by LCD screens. Why do you want to bring back a
problem best left in the past
Guess what? That's hardly a singificant reason why CRTs went away.

Not only that, newer CRTs have a single coating or multicoating on them that knocks down glare by maybe 75% without resorting to a matte textured finish. If you look at what little reflection there is, you might see a faint green, blue or purple hue, which is a side-effect of the coating. All of my CRTs are like that. It's really nice, I can't wait until LCDs use that kind of coating. My new camcorder has something like it on the flip-out screen and as a result, the screen is useable outdoors in daylight.

[MarkMervich]

Aperture does fly as I have this configuration and can attest. But I can not figure that out from the Macworld review!
Aperture has been out for almost 2 years and they have yet to include a direct test of it in their Mac evaluations! Come on Guys, get w/ it! I mean how many people have Cinema 4D(maybe you use that one because it uses all the ava processors) and both Quake and Unreal Tournament(2004?). You guys at Macworld can probably tell me. How many people are using Aperture?
Mark