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#1 User is offline   albloom 

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 06:15 AM

I mostly like the way iTunes 7.6.2 does an MP3 CD. Toast puts
everything in a "folder" (album) into alpha order, which can
be disconcerting for sound track and classical albums. So will
iTunes by default. But if you click on "album" when the MP3
playlist is selected, iTunes will (mostly) put each track of
an album in its correct order.

I've done two iTunes MP3s and found two instances (of 23 total
albums) where the correct album sequence wasn't honored. In
each case a track "down the way" got promoted to first place.

The iTunes window list shows, say, Track 7 at the top of the
list followed by Tracks 1-6 and 8-12 in correct order. Why?

Same game whether in my main account or in my vanilla debug
account.

A "get info" on each track shows nothing out of order. Neither
MP3 ID3X nor iCDc shows anything out of line, either. And I
cannot drag that track into its proper place. A puzzlement.

I attach a visual aid.

I'm open to ideas.


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Posted 23 May 2008 - 11:48 AM

When this happens to me, clicking on the Track header will generally get it right.

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 01:58 PM

I'm afraid that doesn't help, Dan. I click on the "track" header before the
required "album" to get everything burned in playlist order, and naughtywording
Track 7 (or whatever) goes to the top again.

It doesn't happen often. But when it does, it is set in concrete. And only
in playlists with multiple albums for MP3 burning. The original playlists,
each generally an album in my case, are fine.

But checking your suggestion I found that it is not just multiple albums.
Even in the original, if I click "album," it does the same goofy thing.

I suppose consistency is a virtue.
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Posted 24 May 2008 - 04:27 AM

Thanks to Kevin Dean in another forum. There were apparently invisibles in several entries that looked to be blank. I Hi-Lited all tracks in the album, went to the "Multiple Item Information" screen, and globally nulled every "blank" field. The problem went away.
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Posted 25 May 2008 - 12:19 PM

The same thing is happening to me with podcasts. No matter what order they are downloaded, they will not sort in sequence in iTunes. And importing them to the iPod will only duplicate the out-of-order issue.

How exactly did you clear out all those nulls?
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Posted 26 May 2008 - 04:08 AM

I didn't clear out all the nulls. I ensured that they were nulls.
Sorry I was unclear.

Hi-lite every track in the album. Press command-I to get the Multiple
Item screen. Go to every item that appears to be blank (ensure that
there is nothing in that entry -- the cursor is on the far left) and check
the box in front of the entry. Apply.

But you may have a different problem. Have you used the "sequence"
fields (track numbers) at all?
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Posted 26 May 2008 - 04:49 AM

"But you may have a different problem. Have you used the "sequence" fields (track numbers) at all?"



What exactly do you mean?



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Posted 27 May 2008 - 04:20 AM

I'm sorry I was unclear. Let me try again.

Select a playlist. Under View, select View Options. Check the "Track
Number" box. Click OK. What does the Track Number column show
for those tracks?

You can change the play order. Hi-lite a track. Get-info on it (command-I).
Select the "Info" tab. Enter the correct track number. Continue for all
tracks. Back in the iTunes main window, click on Track to properly
sort the playlist.

Am I more clear?
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Posted 27 May 2008 - 05:26 AM

Yeah, I've already done that. I've done it for numerous music playlists. The track number column appears but when I click on it's header titled "Track number", it doesn't sort them in numerical order. It will for music playlists but not for podcasts.



Strange why it won't do that. It's almost as if it's locked into that odd sequence.
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Posted 29 May 2009 - 08:06 AM

Hi,

While I was reading this post I figured it out, in my case.

I have multiple CD's with a total of 79 tracks I want to play in order.

So I just set the order of the discs 1 of 7, 2 of 7, etc... etc...
Then I set the track number for each song on the discs 1 of 10, 2 of 20, etc... etc...

After that the come up in order when I play them back on my iPhone.

Hope this helps!
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