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Review: Canon Vixia HV30

#15 User is offline   BrianChen Icon

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 08:33 AM

@habittel:

Assuming you've got a decent amount of RAM, too, you shouldn't have frame dropping problems in high-def. Are you using the correct setup in Final Cut for importing? If you go to Final Cut Pro --> Easy Setup, you should be using the HDV 1080 i60 setting. Playback should then be smooth...
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Posted 18 June 2008 - 08:35 AM

@Pinova

Going off the top of my head, the main difference between the HV30 and the HV20 is that the HV30 can shoot in 30P mode.
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Posted 18 June 2008 - 08:56 AM

Minor ergonomic changes with the HV30: 1) the zoom button sticks out; 2) The flap covering the hot shoe doesn't pop off.



The 30p mode results in no interlacing on videos intended for the Web.
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#18 User is offline   habittel Icon

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 03:15 PM

I only have the base 2 GB of Ram in it right now, but that should be adequate. And yes, the settings are correct. I've tried it on my Mac Pro and 2.33 Macbook Pro. It's actually more than a frame drop. It loses several seconds and creates a scene break. I've seen in blogs where others are having the problem, but no one has posted a solution. Called Canon and they said they were unaware of the issue.
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Posted 18 June 2008 - 04:01 PM

I'll have to use my cameras more often and see if I can duplicate this. Just to be clear ... it sounds like you're saying the dropped frames happen on capture -- it's not just a playback issue. Thanks.
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Posted 09 July 2008 - 01:42 PM

I have the HV30 and Final Cut Pro 5.1.4 and am trying to figure out the settings I need to import HDV footage into FCP using the HDV/DV to 6 pin firewire.

Could someone please give me some guidance. I am getting very frustrated. I have a SONY DSR11 deck I just learned I can not use for this and so am trying to figure out how to use the camera as a deck.



Thanks!
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Posted 09 July 2008 - 05:27 PM

rbullen said:

I have the HV30 and Final Cut Pro 5.1.4 and am trying to figure out the settings I need to import HDV footage into FCP using the HDV/DV to 6 pin firewire.

Could someone please give me some guidance. I am getting very frustrated. I have a SONY DSR11 deck I just learned I can not use for this and so am trying to figure out how to use the camera as a deck.








Thanks!

One snarky comment and then I'll try to be helpful: You have a DSR-11 and didn't realize it can't be used for HDV?!!! I'm sorry, but that's beyond me.
I have FCP 6.0.3 and 6.04; I didn't used FCP prior to 6.0.1, so I'm not sure if the Easy Setups are different in FCP 5.1.4, but here's how I set up the HDV capture. (BTW, it's a capture, not an import, as you're dealing with tape, not files.) The Canon manual says that the HDV/DV terminal outputs 1080i HD or 480i SD. That narrows your choices way down in the Final Cut Easy Setups. Choose Format: HDV; Use: HDV 1080i60 Firewire Basic. Click the Setup button and you're done. It really is an "Easy Setup." If you have the Log & Capture window open while you do the Easy Setup, it will tell you it can't find a device if you choose the wrong setup; if you choose something that will work, it won't give you a warning.

Be aware that if you shoot 24P, the camera won't output 24P -- it adds 3:2 pulldown, which is a drag -- and that's why you need to choose 1080i60 no matter which HDV setting you shot with. However, you can use Cinema Tools or Compressor to do a Reverse Telecine to get the footage back to 24P.
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Posted 09 July 2008 - 05:34 PM

Thanks, I just figured it out.

As for the snarky comment, well taken and deserved. I was not thinking (obviously).

I tried the tape in the deck, it didn't work and then pretty much slapped my head, duh HDV.
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Posted 09 July 2008 - 07:52 PM

I acquired recently a canon hv 30 and i am also experiencing the same problem you had with FCP 5.0

Could you share your settings or the method applied to capture ?

Many thanks in advance.
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Posted 17 July 2008 - 05:09 PM

No frame dropping in FCP here.
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Posted 17 July 2008 - 05:19 PM

My problem actually ended up being the HDV/DV port. I have 2 of the cameras and when I tried the second one everyhting worked fine. I choose

Sequence Preset: HDV - 1080i60

Capture Preset: HDV

Device Control Preset: HDV Firewire

And it all worked fine.

Someone else responded to my request with:

I am using 5.0.4 but the importing should be the same. If you haven't already, make sure to change your settings on the play/out setup of the camera under the av -> dv setting is checked off. That took me a while to find that annoyance. But I shoot in 30P HDV and use the apple intermediate import setting that came with the program. But if you need to do it manually the settings you should set are 1440 x 1080 (yes I know it shoots in 1920 but once it comes off the tape and onto the computer the codec for hdv takes it down to 1440-no huge loss in this case), and that you are using the 29.97 timebase and the apple intermediate codec as your compression format. However, like I said, just go with the HDV 1080i60p import with the apple intermediate codec and you should be fine. It isn't like the old standard def screen either. It just asks you for the name of the clip that you are importing and takes it from there. The stripped down importing was a change for me from the SD importing, took me a little bit to adjust to the ease of it. I tried so hard that it seemed like something should be harder, but it wasn't.

Hope you are able to get yours working. It can be very frustrating.
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Posted 03 August 2008 - 12:34 AM

ok I seem to be having about the same problem I have a canon Vixia HV30 and a MacBook with OSX 10.4.11 I have purchased a 6pin to HDV/DV and it all fits properly. When I plug it into my computer and turn on my camera the cameras HDV/DV icon appears but I can not find the camera on my mac in the finder window. I want to get the captures onto my hard-drive and then edit on final cut pro 5. How do I get the captures off of my camera? Im new at all this and any help would be greatly appreciated

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Posted 03 August 2008 - 12:36 AM

ok I seem to be having about the same problem I have a canon Vixia HV30 and a MacBook with OSX 10.4.11 I have purchased a 6pin to HDV/DV and it all fits properly. When I plug it into my computer and turn on my camera the cameras HDV/DV icon appears but I can not find the camera on my mac in the finder window. I want to get the captures onto my hard-drive and then edit on final cut pro 5. How do I get the captures off of my camera? Im new at all this and any help would be greatly appreciated

thanks
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Posted 03 August 2008 - 04:30 AM

Storml06:

The way you phrased your question seems to indicate a fundamental misunderstanding of the HV30. It doesn't capture your scenes as video files; it records to tape. Unless you have a memory card in it for still photos, the camera won't appear in the Finder. To get your video into Final Cut, think of the camera as a tape deck. Use the Log & Capture function.

There are many cameras on the market that record to flash memory, but the HV30 uses the old fashioned tape workflow, which I prefer. Tapes are a good archive and can always be recaptured using timecode should your hard drive go bad.

If you use a camera that records files on flash memory, you would use the Import function as opposed to Capture.
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