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Teaching audio engineering while on the road with Ozzy

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 01:01 PM

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 01:47 PM

One good place for tutorials for a lot of this stuff is at http://www.howaudio.com/
The guys there have provided a pretty good resource for those looking to get in or do better in this business.
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Posted 25 July 2008 - 04:34 PM

I hope Mr. Price realizes that the Venue software runs on Windows XP embedded. And that the Venue stand alone software only runs on a PC.
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Posted 25 July 2008 - 04:54 PM

of course he does....it's like euphonix...you use a pc when you have to, but you use a mac the other 99%
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Posted 25 July 2008 - 07:12 PM

I am sure he is aware of the construction of his equipment, and the software limitations that it may have, but with a Mac running Boot Camp*, one can have both the rock-solid performance of the Mac audio environment and the programmability of the Windows environment.



*It does appear that this Mac Pro is not running Leopard, which may hinder the Boot Camp operation.
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Posted 26 July 2008 - 06:06 AM

So that's probably the only piece of gear that gives him any trouble... :D
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Posted 26 July 2008 - 06:14 AM

eeh no you don't "have to" use a Mac to make music. This is just an old myth. I personally use both so don't anyone get me wrong but there is a truck load of good music software running on Windows that works equally good. So, no a Mac is not a must.
I personally use Reason 4 for Mac and I love it. However, I also run Cubase 4 on Windows XP and it works marvelously well.
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Posted 26 July 2008 - 07:11 AM

I am a Mac user but not a musician. I purchased a keyboard for my son (who uses Windows (he lives with his mom)). We tested the whole set up on my Mac using GarageBand. When it came time to set it up at his place, we couldn't find one piece of reasonably priced Windows software that came anywhere close to what GarageBand does. We opted for Cubase SE I think (it has been a couple years) and even then setting everything up took hours, not minutes. On top of that he only has like 3 piano sounds and he can't even record a CD of him playing. In contrast, GaragbeBand has hundreds of instruments and making a disc is a piece of cake. A Mac may not be a must- but it certainly beats the alternatives.
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Posted 26 July 2008 - 10:57 AM

Hello artzangel,
There’s no question GarageBand, for its value, is the way to go. Plus it ship with all new Macs (part of iLife) or can be purchased for about $80 if you have an older Mac.
Cubase 4 (not sure about the SE version though) is not to be compared to GarageBand as it is basically just a sequencer with a few built-in VST plug-ins (synths and a few effects) but it is a much more advanced and professional sequencer then GarageBand (hence more expensive). Plus, there's a lot of third party VSTs available that are truly amazing. I know it can get very expensive but like I said it's much more powerful and professional.
I think Propellerhead Reason 4 (http://www.propellerheads.se) is almost comparable to GarageBand but cost a hefty $500. I do say "almost comparable" because it's quite easy to learn like GarageBand but still beat it in terms of sound quality and software instruments availability. It’s available for both Mac and Windows so I recommend you check it out.
PS: I apologize for my English…I am French. :-)
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Posted 26 July 2008 - 06:25 PM

Well, Last Time I checked the Digidesign Venue is based on a Windows Platform!!!
Yes you can hook a Mac running protools to record but the Venue itself Is dependent on Windows!!!
I don't want to scream hypocrite Maybe this guy has no clue about it???
And I'm sure he was compensated for saying you need a Mac to all the 100 Hungry aspiring Audio engineers who ran out to get a mac!!!!
Garage Band .............. Please
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Posted 26 July 2008 - 09:32 PM

And in other breaking news.......
All guitarists must play a Gibson guitar to succeed. If you play a Fender, you will never make it.
Ignorant, pompous statements like my bogus example above, along with the bogus verbage from Mr Price, the FOH dude in this article, are NOT helpful to aspiring students.

Why make ironclad statements about a piece of hardware with a 3-5 year shelflife, max. Not exactly brilliant encouragement and horizon expansion for the creative-minded student.
Draconian dogma is not helpful, Mr Price. It's small-minded.
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 01:12 AM

this is where this thread should have ended
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 03:13 AM

that guy sucks, that gear is totally inadequate for audio engineering
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 03:32 PM

@Axiom -

Windows XP runs on Mac using BootCamp, VMWare, Parallel's, Virtual Box, QEMU...your point?
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