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Just replaced the logic board in an early G5 Dual 2GHz Mac Tower. The ASD says the speed of the logic board is 800 MHz, not the 1 Ghz it should be. Also, although the board has eight memory slots, only four are recognized by the Hardware Info (on the ASD Disc) and the Apple System Profiler. My thought, wrong board but according to the EEE code it's correct. Bad board?
Power Mac G5 logic board failure?
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Posted 25 October 2009 - 07:37 PM
Add me to the list ...
Last week My mac froze. It froze the way the OS9 would (everything stops). I rebooted many times with
a variety of results. The grey multiligual screen of death, blank screen, hanging at the apple logo, code all over the desktop, etc. Sometimes with a chime sometimes with no chime. I tried reseating ram, videocard, swapping drives, restting the pmu, all to no avail. I left it alone for a day or so and came back to find it booted and
stayed that way for 30 minutes. Then the whole parade started over. I managed to get it back for a day, did as much work as I could but noticed that I had lost about 1.5 gigs of ram. So I rebooted yet again. No joy. the ram was gone and once It went to sleep it never woke up. It sits there like that now. Anytime I try to reboot, I get 3 flashes on the power button teling me I have bad ram slots.
In doing my research as to what might be causing my problems with the PPC Mac, I found that many other Mac owners have suffered the same fate. In various Mac forums, including the Apple support site iteself, loyal customers, all equally confused as to why Apple has not addressed this obvious flaw in production have posted similar stories.
http://discussions.a...101798#10101798
In a survey conducted by macintouch.com almost one third of all june 2004 PPC Macs had to be serviced because of power supply, logic board, or other equally debilitating issues. Some users manage to prolong the life of the machine but in the end they all die conveniently just outside the extended warrany period.
http://www.macintouc...ility/pmg5.html
http://pixelchimp.net/mac-death/list
I've been with Apple since the apple IIc. I'm as vocal a proponent of the Mac and of Apple as a whole. I've owned a quadra, an iMac rev.b, a graphite iMac and all have performed beatifully. In fact the one that is still here still works and the ones that left here, left working. What has happened here is unacceptable. I've been relegated to using an HP pavilion I got from a swap shop for $150.00 to write this. It works flawlessly. In the background I can hear Justin Long touting the benefits of owning a Mac on TV. Meanwhile, the $3800.00 PPC Mac on my desktop is a tombstone.
I'll be on the phone with Apple support asap and then off to the geniuis bar again. I've already talked to Brian at DT&T, plenty of logic boards going through there.
My problem is this, Even if I manage to get them top fess up and offer a repair, I don't know if I want Apple to replace the logic board with another faulty one. I just want them to pay for it. From what I gather, DT&T will put a proper one in. Besides, independent smaller outfits tend to look out for there rep a bit more than a corporate behemoth like Apple. It might even be cheaper for them.
Anyway, depending on how it goes, I'm prepared for legal action if it comes to it. Everything I've read on the boards about contacting Consumer reports, the news, youtube. I'm prepared to do it all if I have to pay this.
Last week My mac froze. It froze the way the OS9 would (everything stops). I rebooted many times with
a variety of results. The grey multiligual screen of death, blank screen, hanging at the apple logo, code all over the desktop, etc. Sometimes with a chime sometimes with no chime. I tried reseating ram, videocard, swapping drives, restting the pmu, all to no avail. I left it alone for a day or so and came back to find it booted and
stayed that way for 30 minutes. Then the whole parade started over. I managed to get it back for a day, did as much work as I could but noticed that I had lost about 1.5 gigs of ram. So I rebooted yet again. No joy. the ram was gone and once It went to sleep it never woke up. It sits there like that now. Anytime I try to reboot, I get 3 flashes on the power button teling me I have bad ram slots.
In doing my research as to what might be causing my problems with the PPC Mac, I found that many other Mac owners have suffered the same fate. In various Mac forums, including the Apple support site iteself, loyal customers, all equally confused as to why Apple has not addressed this obvious flaw in production have posted similar stories.
http://discussions.a...101798#10101798
In a survey conducted by macintouch.com almost one third of all june 2004 PPC Macs had to be serviced because of power supply, logic board, or other equally debilitating issues. Some users manage to prolong the life of the machine but in the end they all die conveniently just outside the extended warrany period.
http://www.macintouc...ility/pmg5.html
http://pixelchimp.net/mac-death/list
I've been with Apple since the apple IIc. I'm as vocal a proponent of the Mac and of Apple as a whole. I've owned a quadra, an iMac rev.b, a graphite iMac and all have performed beatifully. In fact the one that is still here still works and the ones that left here, left working. What has happened here is unacceptable. I've been relegated to using an HP pavilion I got from a swap shop for $150.00 to write this. It works flawlessly. In the background I can hear Justin Long touting the benefits of owning a Mac on TV. Meanwhile, the $3800.00 PPC Mac on my desktop is a tombstone.
I'll be on the phone with Apple support asap and then off to the geniuis bar again. I've already talked to Brian at DT&T, plenty of logic boards going through there.
My problem is this, Even if I manage to get them top fess up and offer a repair, I don't know if I want Apple to replace the logic board with another faulty one. I just want them to pay for it. From what I gather, DT&T will put a proper one in. Besides, independent smaller outfits tend to look out for there rep a bit more than a corporate behemoth like Apple. It might even be cheaper for them.
Anyway, depending on how it goes, I'm prepared for legal action if it comes to it. Everything I've read on the boards about contacting Consumer reports, the news, youtube. I'm prepared to do it all if I have to pay this.
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Posted 27 October 2009 - 10:07 AM
1st gen 1.8 DP.
added RAM to 2.5G
replaced vid card with x800xt.
added 500G HD.
relocated from south La to north TX.
golden... 100% working still.
unfortunate about the probs everyone else has.
just happy i am not on that wagon.
added RAM to 2.5G
replaced vid card with x800xt.
added 500G HD.
relocated from south La to north TX.
golden... 100% working still.
unfortunate about the probs everyone else has.
just happy i am not on that wagon.
This post has been edited by macnuke: 27 October 2009 - 10:08 AM
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Posted 27 October 2009 - 04:30 PM
Start saving your money. I too added a 500g HD and boosted my ram to 3.5ghz
Talked with apple damage control today. Apparently we few are looking at things from a very narrow view, forgetting that there are many Macs working fine and that I as an individual have to expect things like this to happen. After all, it's five years old and would normally be upgraded by now. I told the guy that I upgraded past what I needed then so I wouldn't have to upgrade again in 2 weeks. I reminded him that I paid a lot of money for what I believed to be a superior product and was under the understanding that I was getting what I paid for.
There was a little silence after that but I was reminded that apple no longer has any obligation to me.
Seriously, It's as if these dopes have no concept of time. I think this is just starting. In a few years it's going to be an avalanche.
I'm going to see what my attorney says.
Talked with apple damage control today. Apparently we few are looking at things from a very narrow view, forgetting that there are many Macs working fine and that I as an individual have to expect things like this to happen. After all, it's five years old and would normally be upgraded by now. I told the guy that I upgraded past what I needed then so I wouldn't have to upgrade again in 2 weeks. I reminded him that I paid a lot of money for what I believed to be a superior product and was under the understanding that I was getting what I paid for.
There was a little silence after that but I was reminded that apple no longer has any obligation to me.
Seriously, It's as if these dopes have no concept of time. I think this is just starting. In a few years it's going to be an avalanche.
I'm going to see what my attorney says.
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Posted 28 October 2009 - 03:46 AM
spent the savings a while back.
needed some stuff that was intelinside so i needed on an upgrade.
the G5 is still running, but i bought a new macpro with a single quad/4870graphics/6g set up.
the new and the old have made friends and talk to each other daily.
needed some stuff that was intelinside so i needed on an upgrade.
the G5 is still running, but i bought a new macpro with a single quad/4870graphics/6g set up.
the new and the old have made friends and talk to each other daily.
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Posted 12 November 2009 - 03:49 PM
Now a year after my iMac G5 died, I finally decided to open a ticket at DT&T and suck up the cost of fixing this POS. But then I got pissed all over again and I really do not feel like donating any more money to Apple since they've already gotten $2500 out of me (I know the payment to DT&T is not to Apple, but I'd still be later buying Apple accessories for the POS). I can manage with PCs since when they die they cost me much less, and I'm really not doing the graphic-intensive work I originally bought the iMac G5 for anyway.
So can any of you give me a recommendation for a docking station for a hard drive for this machine that I can get what was on it that I didn't have backed up and be done with the POS? I know I can go to Amazon and search and find one, but I'm not technical enough to know if I'm buying the best and easiest to use. Is this a really difficult thing to do? I've never gotten data out of one this way so I don't know what to expect and how to go about it but I'm willing to try and learn something in the process. I would so much appreciate any advice in this direction.
So can any of you give me a recommendation for a docking station for a hard drive for this machine that I can get what was on it that I didn't have backed up and be done with the POS? I know I can go to Amazon and search and find one, but I'm not technical enough to know if I'm buying the best and easiest to use. Is this a really difficult thing to do? I've never gotten data out of one this way so I don't know what to expect and how to go about it but I'm willing to try and learn something in the process. I would so much appreciate any advice in this direction.
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Posted 12 November 2009 - 04:17 PM
Attorney?
Warranty's over, AppleCare's over, per the written agreement (which is equal or superior to any other computer mfg'r's) - what's an attorney going to do for you?
I'm sorry your machine has problems - five years is a decent run, tho' - although I have 14+ year old Macs running fine.
Doo-doo happens.
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Warranty's over, AppleCare's over, per the written agreement (which is equal or superior to any other computer mfg'r's) - what's an attorney going to do for you?
I'm sorry your machine has problems - five years is a decent run, tho' - although I have 14+ year old Macs running fine.
Doo-doo happens.
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Posted 12 November 2009 - 04:25 PM
If you get anywhere with a law firm on a class action suit,
please post here on your progress. You'll really have to have
the facts on your side - if there is a true failure rate as high as
Macintouch says there is, you may have to file for a subpoena of Apple's
records... you'll need some expensive legal help for that.
Now, do you have another Mac around you can plug the drive in so that you can burn your data to disc or can transfer to another machine?
I wouldn't buy anything just to accomplish this - there are lots of computer repair centers out there that could do it for you cheaper
OR
see if you have a (fairly) local MUG in your area (Macintosh User Group - fans of Apple that congregate to help each other). Someone in one would be glad to back up your stuff for you, I'm sure.
please post here on your progress. You'll really have to have
the facts on your side - if there is a true failure rate as high as
Macintouch says there is, you may have to file for a subpoena of Apple's
records... you'll need some expensive legal help for that.
Now, do you have another Mac around you can plug the drive in so that you can burn your data to disc or can transfer to another machine?
I wouldn't buy anything just to accomplish this - there are lots of computer repair centers out there that could do it for you cheaper
OR
see if you have a (fairly) local MUG in your area (Macintosh User Group - fans of Apple that congregate to help each other). Someone in one would be glad to back up your stuff for you, I'm sure.
