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Don't be a player hater

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 01:03 PM

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 01:35 PM

RE: 7. The Mystery Check Box
I started finding these useful for my Apple TV. If I have an entire season of a TV, along with a bunch of movies, on my Apple TV, there is just not enough room. So, I uncheck the later part of a season of a television show. PC World might hate the checkboxes, but I have grown to rely on them and hope they never ever ever never disappear.
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Posted 11 August 2008 - 01:37 PM

And for the great guys at PCworld:
Talking about bad experiences and the like have you tried to install Firefox, Opera, Real Player, and the like competing products to MS's offerings? When you do and launch Internet Explorer, or MediaPlayer, or Quicktime, or any competing product you're prompted time and time again if you want that to be your Default Application, I remember checking it every time and saying NO!, but it comes back every time.
Also I am sick of the following notices:
-'Designed for Internet Explorer 6.0 and higher and Windows XP'
-You need Windows Media Player to view this content
-Developers! Developers! Developers!
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Posted 11 August 2008 - 01:47 PM

PC World needs to get a clue. No EBOOKS? Most users couldn't care less about reading books from their iTunes UI. This is just stupid complaint for the sake of complaining. You don't like it, go use Windows Media player for a while again then come back and tell us how bad iTunes sucks.
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Posted 11 August 2008 - 02:51 PM

Just shows how ignorant those stupid PC weenies really are...
None of these things they talk about is a real issue, as Mr. Breen so succinctly and politely points out.
I would have been a lot more harsh on them... I have little tolerance for PC drones who think Apple software is made wrong because they're been brainwashed by Monoposoft and think that if it doesn't work the way Monkey Boy, er I mean Sweaty Steve, er uh oh yeah Mr. Ballmer says it should be done, then it's wrong.
And after reading the comments over there on that article, you'll see what I mean. Thank god for my Mac and OS X. I prefer getting work done on my computer, instead of working on my computer to get work done.
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Posted 11 August 2008 - 02:58 PM

bowser said:

Just shows how ignorant those stupid PC weenies really are...


To be fair, I have written the most scathing rants about something that I knew, in my heart-of-hearts, was small potatoes. And I also think it's fair that a lot of these kinds of perceptions are based on expectation. When you're accustomed to the way Product X goes about its business, it's easy to find fault with Product Y ? not because it's inherently awful but rather because it's not the way you expect things to work.

For example, the Watch folders thing. I can create Watch folders with Automator but I rarely do because I'm pretty disorganized and find it just as easy to drag stuff where I need it. But those people who are more organized, who tend to use a lot of Watch folders, may find this a real issue ? particularly if another program they use does things that way.

So, it's not ignorance. Ignorant people don't work at places like PC World. It's just different.

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 03:06 PM

There are definitely some pet hates with iTunes, for me it's mostly about not being as good with video as it is with music. I wish Apple would improve this area, or even have a seperate app for video.
What I would really love is to be able to have my music on my local hard drive, video on an external drive, yet still have iTunes manage all of it!
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Posted 11 August 2008 - 03:16 PM

Sure, Vista SP 1 is that huge, but what about 10.5.4 Combo updater? Pretty big download for a non service pack.
I do agree, why does Apple decide to make iTunes/Quicktime reinstall everytime there's an iTunes update? If QT wasn't updated, no need to reinstall.
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Posted 11 August 2008 - 03:16 PM

mrrichardlewis said:

What I would really love is to be able to have my music on my local hard drive, video on an external drive, yet still have iTunes manage all of it!


You can. Just turn off the option to copy files to the iTunes Music folder when adding to library (found in the General tab within the Advanced preference) and then drag your video files into the Library entry in iTunes Source list. The titles of your videos will be added to the iTunes library but the files will remain on that external hard drive. As long as that external drive is up and running when you launch iTunes, you're good. Unplug it, though, and iTunes won't know where to look for the files.

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 03:20 PM

Jeter2Fan93 said:


> I do agree, why does Apple decide to make iTunes/Quicktime reinstall everytime there's an iTunes update? If QT wasn't updated, no need to reinstall.

It has to do with the relationship between iTunes and QuickTime and the OS. The core capabilities of QuickTime are built into OS X. They're not in Windows. iTunes depends on QuickTime to work a lot of its magic. On a Mac, it can do some of that with the QuickTime components that exist within the current version of QT and OS X. You don't have that luxury on a PC so it means that your QuickTime install has to change more often.

Now if Microsoft were to build a QuickTime layer into Windows...

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 03:29 PM

"For example, on the Mac the iTunes 7.7 download weighs in at 48.4MB. Windows users must download 60.6MB of data and it would be nice if there was a patch."

OK that's just an invalid comparison. You can't compare an OS service pack to a one application update.
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Posted 11 August 2008 - 03:35 PM

Cheers Chris,

But if I do that, it also won't copy my music to the iTunes folder which I want it to do.
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Posted 11 August 2008 - 03:40 PM

I have the same issue, but I setup a Movies/TV folder on my external 1TB hard drive and Music on another hard drive. Copy my files to those folders and then drag and drop to iTunes after disabling automatically copying to iTunes folder. Not very automated, but it does the job. I believe that iTunes is just experiencing "growing pains" since it was originally meant to manage music only. iTunes should be called iMedia and allow folders on separate hard drives for Music, Movies, TV, etc.
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Posted 11 August 2008 - 03:40 PM

kgvs said:


> OK that's just an invalid comparison. You can't compare an OS service pack to a one application update.

Didn't you read the article? Of course you can. I just did. ;)

Seriously, okay, it's kind of a low blow, but having to download entire applications instead of patches is hardly unknown in either the Mac or Windows world. And, as I said, it's only 60MB. The "hey, there are people out here on dial-up" point is reaching. If you're on dial-up, you're likely not updating your other Windows apps either?certainly not Service Pack or Window Media Player releases. Dial-up is a pain, but it's hardly fair to slap Apple around for it when there are plenty of examples where Windows makes dial-up far more untenable.

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