[icerabbit]

Not sure to which person to reply exactly ... so this is to all :)

Don't get me wrong, I am actually fine with there being a zoom state button / function. But just like there are reasons we from time to time, or all the time with certain apps, like to run them zoomed ... there are times that we want to just maximize ... and we should be able to do so without dragging corners. My daily use with Safari is maximized and open several dozen sites via open in tabs. I would say I run Safari maximized 99% of the time. On occasion I will run it zoomed down, but I primarely do that with FireFox to review how sites render at various viewport sizes. Anyway, I would be more than fine using option - click or something on the (+) to maximize any and all apps.

[kill953]

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kill953 said:

> Sorry, but I think it would be a pretty bad design decision on the part of Apple to clutter the Empty Trash interface in this way. If you need that advanced an option there are ways of achieving it using e.g. Automator and Terminal.
This is too complicated for an average user?

Unfortunately, the response to that is yes. It is cluttering what needs to be a very simple design - 95% of first time Mac users (and a substantial number of long time users) would wonder why, when they select to empty the Trash, files still remain in it (because they didn't happen to notice that they only had one particular volume highlighted).

I can see how that type of design could be good for people who knew what they were doing, but the proportion of people who know what they are doing is insignificant against the number who don't, and I am afraid you have to cater to that majority first if you want to retain any semblance of ease-of-use.

[XMattingly]

kill953 said:

Unfortunately, the response to that is yes. It is cluttering what needs to be a very simple design - 95% of first time Mac users (and a substantial number of long time users) would wonder why, when they select to empty the Trash, files still remain in it (because they didn't happen to notice that they only had one particular volume highlighted).

Dude, your reasoning is so arbitrary. By that same logic, most people will never understand the Spotlight search window, or how Burn Folders work. Spaces would be a complete mystery, and the zoom button would be like the freakin' Riddle of the Sphinx to everyone.

You assume too much (or really, too little) about what novices are capable of understanding. Not suggesting that my mockup is a catch-all solution; I'm sure there are a lot of better ways to implement selective volume trash deletion. But if someone is able to discern how a Spotlight search works, I'm sure they would equally be able to understand what "volume1", "volume 2", etc. followed by an "empty" button should mean in a trash window.

Bear in mind that the trash/delete metaphor was created over 25 years ago; long before there was any consideration for handling multiple volumes. And that metaphor, in spite of OS X greatly increased sophistication over the original Mac OS, has been changed in very minor ways since then.

[Sohrob]

To this I would add the fact that you still cannot have a repeatable To Do inside of iCal (something common to most every other PIM out there) and you still cannot set reminders for birthdays that are imported from Address Book into iCal either. Why would you not allow someone to be given a reminder of some kind for their friends/associates birthdays? Very frustrating.
I would also like to see a way to categorize RSS feeds inside of Mail. Maybe make folders and subfolders for feeds from different sources.
Lastly, it would be nice to transfer info from my iPhone to my Mac via Bluetooth.

[XMattingly]

Sohrob said:

To this I would add the fact that you still cannot have a repeatable To Do inside of iCal (something common to most every other PIM out there) and you still cannot set reminders for birthdays that are imported from Address Book into iCal either. Why would you not allow someone to be given a reminder of some kind for their friends/associates birthdays? Very frustrating.

Just create an event and make that repeat. The mindset is slightly different for to-do's; they're only intended to be a temporary "chore list". The lack of an alarm with birthdays does seem like a ridiculous oversight; I forgot all about that one. I'm surprised Rob didn't mention it, either! :)

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Lastly, it would be nice to transfer info from my iPhone to my Mac via Bluetooth.

I think Apple wants you to be using iTunes with your phone. I would imagine they're limiting choices partly to simplify consumer syncing options, as I'm sure many people would be miffed about running down their battery while syncing media files - which is not what Bluetooth is designed for.

[Sohrob]

XMattingly wrote:

Just create an event and make that repeat. The mindset is slightly different for to-do's; they're only intended to be a temporary "chore list". The lack of an alarm with birthdays does seem like a ridiculous oversight; I forgot all about that one. I'm surprised Rob didn't mention it, either!

Other folks have told me to do the same, but that just offends my sensibilities about this kind of stuff. In my mind an Event is an Event and a To Do is a To Do. Maybe I'm being OCD about this but thats the way it works in every other PIM out there and that's how I prefer it. Besides, why would iCal even include an option to have To Do's if they wanted the user to treat them the same as Events?

XMattingly wrote:

I think Apple wants you to be using iTunes with your phone. I would imagine they're limiting choices partly to simplify consumer syncing options, as I'm sure many people would be miffed about running down their battery while syncing media files - which is not what Bluetooth is designed for

I wouldn't expect to be transferring large media files via Bluetooth anyway. It would be nice if you could use Bluetooth just to sync Contacts and Notes however. That is the way it works on a Blackberry where you can sync text-based items wirelessly but you still have to be hardwired via USB to sync larger files.

[XMattingly]

Sohrob said:

Other folks have told me to do the same, but that just offends my sensibilities about this kind of stuff. In my mind an Event is an Event and a To Do is a To Do. Besides, why would iCal even include an option to have To Do's if they wanted the user to treat them the same as Events?

Heh heh... "offends your sensibilities"? :)

I see the distinction between the two... if an item is something for a checklist, it's a to-do; if it's an on-going thing, then it's an event. Just depends on how you want to look at it.

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I wouldn't expect to be transferring large media files via Bluetooth anyway. It would be nice if you could use Bluetooth just to sync Contacts and Notes however.

I agree. That's how I sync contacts w/ my Razr; Bluetooth is a quick and simple way to connect. But I think Apple wants to keep those options as simple as possible though; rather than make you fumble through the interface to pick your connection and/or run the risk of confusing noobs, they went with a one size fits all solution.

[kill953]

Forget bluetooth - synching over Wi-Fi would be much more practical as you wouldn't need to restrict yourself to being a few feet from your Mac, and you could transfer larger files too. However, I think the enforced synching via USB and iTunes does serve a very good practical purpose - it ensures that all users are forced to do a back-up every time too and there are only positive things that can be said about that.

[XMattingly]

kill953 said:

However, I think the enforced synching via USB and iTunes does serve a very good practical purpose - it ensures that all users are forced to do a back-up every time too and there are only positive things that can be said about that.

There's also something positive to be said about not wearing down your battery nearly as quickly with a wired connection, too.

[p7p7p3t3]

There is one more annoyance to add to the list. When I was using Tiger I could use my SONY LCD Color TV as a monitor. Now that I have up-graded? to Leopard, ii is incompatible.

[1307]

Your comments on Spotlight are SpotOn (argh!) but leave out one issue that has dogged me since 10.5 was introduced.
When creating a search, you no longer have the option of restricting the search to certain discs or volumes. This, for me, this trashes the functionality of smart folders. I keep heaps of images spread across 5 drives. Some images are duplicated, for various reasons, but I don't want to find the duplicates in the search. Also, if a backup drive should be connected (there are 5 backup drives, one for each original drive) Spotlight finds all the backups also.
This feature was there along with the two (this computer and user) that are there now. It completely befuddles me why Apple would delete something so useful. The workaround of using the privacy function isn't satisfactory because I would have to change the preferences too often.
Thanks for a place to unburden myself.
1307 at Walden

[MizMacFrog]

I bought my first Mac in April, so I can't comment or compare any previous operating systems.
One of my complaints is iCal. Unless I'm missing something, it FORCES you to use times. I do not want starting and ending times to be assigned automatically, and I do not want to be bother with having to change times on everything I enter on the calendar. It wouldn't be quite so bad if I could print the month view without printing the times, but I don't see a way to do that. This is a major mistake in iCal. There is not enough control over printing and entering times. I prefer to just type in a time when I type in the event, and do not want to use their automatic and forced time entries.
Anyone know how to take care of this?
Thanks much,
MizMacFrog@comcast.net

[PeterA]

Good review, but you didn't mention my biggest complaint about the Leopard ICal. I have three Macs, but only one has Leopard. The problem is ICal is not backward compatible. I used to be able to upload my current ICal onto either my laptop or my remote Mac, but no longer. So when travelling or working at my remote location, I have to - shudder - have a paper copy of my calender with me.

[kill953]

MizMacFrog said:

One of my complaints is iCal. Unless I'm missing something, it FORCES you to use times. I do not want starting and ending times to be assigned automatically, and I do not want to be bother with having to change times on everything I enter on the calendar.

Change the entry to an all day event.

How you get iCal to do that by default is the next question...