[MizMacFrog]

Thanks for the speedy reply, but that doesn't work, because when printing an all-day event, it only prints the first line. That got me into trouble one day when I printed the calendar and my appointment had the address and phone number, neither of which printed, so I didn't know where to go nor did I have the phone number to call.



So that brings me to another complaint about iCal--I would like to print the month view and have all lines of the event to print.

[Hootayah]

You forgot about the most annoying feature loss since OSX came out.
The 'Put Away' command.
I used to be able to drag multiple things to the trash, then just highlight them, select "Put Away" and everything would jump out of the trash back to every folder they originally came from.
Now all you have is an 'undo' command which only works on the last items you dragged to the trash. Completely useless.

[lifeinhd]

Really? I've never noticed any of these annoyances in the 7 months I've been using Leopard. Perhaps this is because I don't use Mail, I rarely use Spotlight, Time Machine is fine for my purposes, I hate Address Book and iCal, I don't need Help, and I don't care what colors the icons are. I can't imagine how I used to live with Tiger, with its lack of spaces, Time Machine and Cover Flow, the three enhancements to Leopard I use the most. I can't wait to see the performance gains Snow Leopard should bring, which are especially important on my 1.25 GHz PowerBook, even if this comes at the expense of several lesser-used features.

[sequethin]

you know snow leopard might not be available for your architecture? (re: running on your powerbook)

[lifeinhd]

I thought that was just a rumor, and they were going to add PowerPC support in the final build?

[sequethin]

like I said, it might not. who knows for sure? not me! :)



I can see it now: biggest snow leopard gripes.... "it doesn't support ppc" ouch!

[XMattingly]

lifeinhd said:

I thought that was just a rumor, and they were going to add PowerPC support in the final build?

The latest verifyable info points to no support.

[DrSFG]

Another beef about 10.5 and iCal is the manipulation of time zones. In the Date and Time Preference Panel, only Los Angeles is given an actual city name. If you choose San Francisco, it defaults to US/Pacific. This is useless for syncing to a Palm because the Palm doesn't understand the DST rules. So you have to use Los Angeles to get the Palm to sync correctly if you are in the PST area.
Then, if you need to change the time zones of your events, you have to do each event individually in a two step process. For example to change an event from the generic US/Pacific to America/Los Angeles, you first must change the event to "Floating" and then change it to America/Los Angeles. There is no global way to change event time zones and no single stroke way to get get time zones changed.
I had to change SIX YEARS of time zone changes (5 weeks each year) manually to get the Palm to sync properly!

[griffman]

Apple has not officially confirmed whether Snow Leopard will be Intel-only or not, and the Snow Leopard page at apple.com doesn't say anything about it.

However, I will personally be very surprised if Snow Leopard includes PowerPC support. At the earliest, Snow Leopard will ship in perhaps June of 2009. By that time, we'll be three and a half years into the Intel transition, and nearly three years since the last PowerPC machine (the PowerMac G5) was replaced (by the Mac Pro).

If Snow Leopard were to be offered for both PowerPC and Intel CPUs, that would mean Apple would have to spend engineering time creating, for instance, Grand Central and OpenCL for both architectures. I really can't see them expending that sort of effort on a technology that's been gone for over three years.

Only time will tell, of course, but I think Leopard is the end of the OS X line for PowerPC Macs...

-rob.

[lifeinhd]

I suppose it would be best for Apple, to force everyone to ditch their PPC-based machines, but obviously there will be an outcry from PPC users. Snow Leopord is supposed to be all about performance, and if it supported PPCs it might be able to be run on machines as early as G3s. I was planning on selling my MacBook Pro and getting an iMac (and just using the PowerBook for those rare times when I need portability), but I don't know if I could do that, with the speed of Leopard running on it.

[griffman]

I honestly don't think it's about forcing people to ditch PowerPC to buy Intel Macs: Snow Leopard = Leopard optimized for Intel, and built for the future. Leopard itself runs just fine on my 12" PowerBook G4 (1.25GHz), and will continue to run just fine even after Snow Leopard is released.

At some point, everyone using a PowerPC will eventually buy a new Mac. When they do, they'll get Snow Leopard (or its successors). In the interim, they can use Leopard, which is functionally a near-twin of Snow Leopard. If Apple really does drop PowerPC, I don't think it's to force new hardware sales; I think it's because the business case for supporting a dead three-year-old technology doesn't make any sense.

But we'll know for sure in something less than 12 months now :).

-rob.

[lifeinhd]

Perhaps I'm just expecting too much out of the PowerBook. I just recently bought it used, and I was thinking it would be fine for simple tasks I perform on my MacBook Pro (editing word documents, Interner use, music playback, etc). I didn't expect to edit any videos on it or anything like that, but I was a bit disappointed when it lagged while switching spaces, something I do all the time. It also has issues with FireFox, forcing me to use Safari (which I hate). While it is by no means unuseable, it just leaves a bit to be desired. Fortunately I won't be using it too much.

[XMattingly]

griffman said:

Apple has not officially confirmed whether Snow Leopard will be Intel-only or not, and the Snow Leopard page at apple.com doesn't say anything about it.

However, I will personally be very surprised if Snow Leopard includes PowerPC support.

If Snow Leopard were to be offered for both PowerPC and Intel CPUs, that would mean Apple would have to spend engineering time creating, for instance, Grand Central and OpenCL for both architectures.

Yeah, it remains to be seen for sure (at least until Apple offers an official statement), but signs are definitely pointing to "no". Besides, as I understand it, Grand Central is supposed to be designed to take advantage of multiple cores (ie. Intel chips); not multiple processors.

If Apple did create a PPC compatible version for 10.6, I think that would really dilute the focus of what this release is for. And honestly, would folks still using PPC's have much of a reason to howl about it? Almost all features are still available in 10.5. Come to think of it... I think that's how Apple will sell it: "PPC owners, we're cutting you off from future developments, but we'll still sell and support 10.5." :)

[kill953]

Let's face facts... the PPC G4 architecture was already realistically 2 to 3 years past its sell-by-date at the time Apple made the Intel switch, so it will be 5 to 6 years out-of-date by the time Snow Leopard comes about. Are we all forgetting the pathetic speed bumps the PowerBooks were receiving in their final years while waiting for the mobile-G5-chip-that-never-was?

It'd be nice to think that our G4 machines will keep going forever (I have a G4 Powerbook myself) but it is not very realistic.