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Apple yanks iMovie 6 download, ends era of appeasement

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Posted 10 March 2009 - 12:47 PM

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Apple is smart not to pander to legacy. We're never too old to learn and find alternate ways of accomplishing tasks
and getting information.


Given this thread is outdated, I'll not wax long - but this is a pure fan-boy-like load of dingo kidneys. Apple would not even consider doing to FCP, Aperature, etc. the paradigm shift they have shoved on users in this instance - unless they want to go the way of Premiere - which is now trying to scrap it's way back into existence. Professionals don't have time for companies who go mucking around with interfaces that have a proven track record of being understood and working well. And consumers have even less time for it, is my experience. Clearly YMMV.



While I knew several people who used and loved the pre7/8 versions of iMovie, I haven't met one that was into 7 or 8. I know they exist and I know a number of things improved - but that could have been accomplished, without changing the interface so radically.



At the end of the day - this is a moot discussion. Most will make do with what they have - whatever version it is. No support for the earlier version from Apple. No biggy - people don't have to buy iLife, either.
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Posted 10 March 2009 - 03:13 PM

No fanboyism here at all.

I never traversed the learning curve of iMovie HD which means my perspective is the same as almost
anyone trying it for the first time.

I understand video moreso than the basic consumer as I've been selling video solutions since the Video Spigot and
Targa 2000 days.

iMovie HD was indeed a powerful app yet what precipitated its replacement was

A. A user interface that was growing more complex by the version.
B. Creaky internals that didn't lend well to modern features.

I don't expect anyone to like iMovie 08 all that much. It was very basic yet it pointed to a new roadmap that
quite honestly is one that consumers should be on and prosumers need to move up something more suitable like
Final Cut Express.

With iMovie 09 we have, for the most part, parity with iMovie HD yet now we have scrubbing and real time effects and transitions. iMovie 09 "feels" better IMO because it doesn't bog the user down with rendering and stalls to the workflow. The smoothcam features alone make it superior to iMovie HD. Taking out shaky shots is very appropriate for users who shoot handheld more often than not (consumers).
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Posted 10 March 2009 - 03:13 PM

No fanboyism here at all.

I never traversed the learning curve of iMovie HD which means my perspective is the same as almost
anyone trying it for the first time.

I understand video moreso than the basic consumer as I've been selling video solutions since the Video Spigot and
Targa 2000 days.

iMovie HD was indeed a powerful app yet what precipitated its replacement was

A. A user interface that was growing more complex by the version.
B. Creaky internals that didn't lend well to modern features.

I don't expect anyone to like iMovie 08 all that much. It was very basic yet it pointed to a new roadmap that
quite honestly is one that consumers should be on and prosumers need to move up something more suitable like
Final Cut Express.

With iMovie 09 we have, for the most part, parity with iMovie HD yet now we have scrubbing and real time effects and transitions. iMovie 09 "feels" better IMO because it doesn't bog the user down with rendering and stalls to the workflow. The smoothcam features alone make it superior to iMovie HD. Taking out shaky shots is very appropriate for users who shoot handheld more often than not (consumers).
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Posted 10 March 2009 - 03:24 PM

It's clear the internals needed help. Unless you were on a real kick butt system, it was easy to bog it down. And, it's clear they added some cool eye-candy and I'm into that.



I feel the significant interface/paradigm change was bad. I also know that not one of the people that i provide support for will make the move to the newer ones - they barely get around in the older ones. The newer one requires pro-level file management understanding. I get it, because of my time with FCP and FCE. And like I said, I have yet to have a customer asking me about either of the two new versions, while I saw people sometimes buy iMacs, etc. because of the simplicity of the earlier versions of iMovie.



The change was hardest on people who had years of contented experience with a program that (usually) did exactly what they wanted it to do. Time alone will tell if this one gets the use the earlier ones did.
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Posted 10 March 2009 - 03:24 PM

It's clear the internals needed help. Unless you were on a real kick butt system, it was easy to bog it down. And, it's clear they added some cool eye-candy and I'm into that.



I feel the significant interface/paradigm change was bad. I also know that not one of the people that i provide support for will make the move to the newer ones - they barely get around in the older ones. The newer one requires pro-level file management understanding. I get it, because of my time with FCP and FCE. And like I said, I have yet to have a customer asking me about either of the two new versions, while I saw people sometimes buy iMacs, etc. because of the simplicity of the earlier versions of iMovie.



The change was hardest on people who had years of contented experience with a program that (usually) did exactly what they wanted it to do. Time alone will tell if this one gets the use the earlier ones did.
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