[spinoza2]

I use iWeb for two large, complex sites, one under password protection because it's still being developed, and my personal Website, which has open access. Between the two I manage over 2 GB of data and several hundred (perhaps 1000s by now) pages. It certainly could be further developed, but the site manager in iWeb works fine for dealing with all this data. My personal site is still very much a work-in-progress, and I use it mainly as a platform to experiment around with, but if you're interested you can look at http://www.humanismus.com to see what's possible with iWeb.

The reaction from people who visit the site is typically, ?Wow, you must have spent a lot of time developing this?, which isn't true at all. That's the beauty of iWeb, you can develop impressive sites in a fraction of the time it takes in comparison to other Web packages. Even as an experienced Dreamweaver user, it would have taken me several times longer to build the two sites with Dreamweaver. So I disagree strongly with those who believe that iWeb is only for home hobbyists putting up their photographs. With a bit of training and experience iWeb can most certainly be used to develop and manage complex professional sites.

[n4hhe]

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n4hhe said:

> If it can not generate Javascript-less websites then it is a toy.

What a ridiculous assertion given that every web browser can execute Javascript.

No, not every web browser.

However, every web browser executes Javascript slower than CSS or plain HTML.

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What you seem to be saying is "This product doesn't meet my needs so it is a toy." If it doesn't meet your needs that's fine, but saying that it doesn't do something that 99.9% of the web browsing population doesn't even care about is ridiculous.

Saying "99.9% of the web browsing population" is not only unfounded, but wrong. However if one states 99.9% of all viruses and worms from websites are spread through flaws in Javascript one would be closer to the truth. The percentage isn't that high but its close.

What you are saying is that you like your eye-candy animations and bloat. What I am saying is that I want clean, light, fast, secure, and simple. Several of those terms are redundant.

iWeb can not create a static web page without Javascript. Thats stupid. Even iPhoto can generate Javascript-free web sites.

[nwatts]

Can people start posting links to the websites they're talking about? (excluding spinoz2)

[OlsonBW]

I fully agree with your comments.

I have no interest in FaceBook or Flickr. I find FaceBook WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (you get the idea) AAAAAY to messy and too much on the screen. It's the same kind of y web page that I avoid from Comcast and everyone else that wants to be my one central webpage where I see and learn everything.

I have ZERO interest in "I want to be your everything webpage". I only have interest in websites that are about particular things. Or about a few things that person is interested in.

All the annoying things I found in editing pages in iWeb are still there. Such as (I'm busy working on a project and I don't have time to find my list of gripes) when I go to edit text and click on a box with text in it, I have to click multiple times just to get a cursor where the text is, let alone more clicking to high-light text. ARRRRRRRRGGGGG ##(%(&#$(@@)##!!!! Not that I have an opinion on this (sarcasm).

Update: I want to note that there is LOTS to love in iWeb. For quite a few years I managed a website for a local motorcycle group. I encouraged and lots of updates for articles and pictures about schedule and spur of the moment rides and events the group continues to be involved in. It was very easy to keep this website updated.

Several times due to high demands on my time from other sources I tried to pass off the website. Other people using FrontPage and other products tried to replicate something similar (they didn't try to make it exact) because all the features I had on there were very popular.

People never got the same functionality out of it or if they did, they didn't maintain it more than a few months and then stopped updating it. This happened over and over again and they would ask me to take over the website again and I did, including going to their website and pulling their updates over into mine and started getting lots of e-mails again for updates.

Eventually I just had to stop managing this website as I just couldn't do it justice anymore. They got someone from the motorcycle group that has lots of skills with websites, supposedly, and he created one which doesn't look very good and he stopped updating it after a few months just like everyone else. The last time their website was updated was over a year ago.

Anyway, the "moral" of this story is. There are lots of products out there but even people that know how, just don't or can't make good looking websites and keep them updated with other products like you can with iWeb. Sure they might have more features and you can micromanage the web pages themselves a lot more. But they take more time to develop and keeps all the links on the site working and up to date. So it's not that I have iWeb. There are just some things that irritate me when editing stuff.
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[cal_gecko]

Great idea! I would love to see some iWeb-created sites!

Mine is www.geckosites.com

[giordanopg]

I had nothing but love for iWeb and MobileMe... until I upgraded to '09.
The new features are great and all, but I cannot publish my site!!!

I've seen a lot of people in the Apple discussion forum that have the same problem.

When you upgrade, all your sites appear in red, as it happens when you make changes. I thought I just needed to publish again. But every time I try publishing, an error comes up "...try publishing later".

It's frustrating and very sad because I really love iWeb.

[StFoldex]

Well, here is one I created for a singer with an older version of iWeb (1.1.2). I still have to use some workarounds to compensate for the limited web-design possibilities but at least I could get the job done and still can for updates. Though Jeffri is listed very high in Google because quite early I found out the pattern how iWeb works to let the web spiders get the needed information.
Though I wish Apple would improve iWeb for a more professional use or come up with a separate web-design application as an easier to handle counterpart to Dreamweaver, just like Apple did with Final Cut Pro to Avid.

So, here is one example of my iWeb-sites: www.JeffriRamli.com

[johnsaxon]

Here are the two websites I've made. I've just gotten started on the Fine Art website; I want to use Final Cut Express to put together a cool movie to show my work. (you could easily use iMovie) I'll embed the movie on a page and have it start automatically. John

http://www.johnsaxon....com/index.html

http://www.saxonfineart.com/

[pman]

Well I have got to say that I love I web. I do have my gripes but am finding ways around this with itweak and imap.

Finding html on the net also helps to enhance the site.

check it out and tell me what you think. My biggest b is the load on IE. I have to take care to watch the size of the

files i put on each page to keep it movin. I have built an ecommerce site with iweb

www.southbaytrikke.com

Andy

[voxofdf]

Does anyone know if iWeb 09 fixed the problem with Aperture generated MobileMe Photo Galleries not showing up when you want to insert a MobileMe Gallery widget on your web page? In iWeb 08 only iPhoto MobileMe Galleries showed up, which is a pain since I only use Aperture for my photos.

[metreece]

I am a tech coordinator for a school. Here is my website, published to a folder and FTPed by Filezilla to our server.
New Athens CUSD 60

[roddymckay]

Use Web Site Maestro to optimize and upload your website. It reduces file size by about 30%.

http://www.tonbrand.nl/

Rage Sitemap Automator is a lot more sophisticated and reliable than iMap.

http://www.ragesw.co...glesitemap.html

[roddymckay]

You'll find the HTML snippet available in later versions will allow you to do a lot more. Your pages load very slow even in Safari and would benefit from optimization.
I've been trying to put together a website to help musicians specifically but, hopefully, a lot of the information will help iWeb users in general.

http://www.iwebformusicians.com/

Any feedback - cruel or kind - is appreciated.

iWebforMusicians@gmail.com

[rab777hp]

One question- can you get the features in FTP now that you couldn't get before? Like password protected sites?