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Review: iWeb ?09

#29 User is offline   roddymckay Icon

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 10:17 AM

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#30 User is offline   estumpges Icon

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 05:34 PM

My personal site created with iWeb...
http://web.me.com/evanstumpges
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Posted 09 February 2009 - 08:49 AM

Hi,
I am from India and am a recent convert to iMac.
Can anyone pl confirm my understanding that iWeb is a blogging software similar to Blogger. One can publish his blog using iWeb and it is not compulsory to subscribe to MobileMe in order to use iWeb.
Arun
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#32 User is offline   roddymckay Icon

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 08:56 AM

The iWeb blog is easy to use but creates a bunch of large files which soon grow into a monster that takes ages to upload and download.
If you don't publish to MobileMe you will lose the comment and search features.
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Posted 09 February 2009 - 09:00 AM

Arun, congratulations on your recent 'conversion' to Macs, it's good that you've seen the light (is this a religion, or what?). First, you don't need MobileMe to use iWeb, you can use the new ftp capability to publish to any hosting service. Second, yes, you can use iWeb to blog, and you can even set up an RSS on your site with built-in iWeb tools. If you were mainly interested in blogging, I would create a relatively simple iWeb homepage as your 'front-end', and then to point visitors to your blog as the primary element in your site. You can do this in a matter of minutes using iWeb. Good luck!
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#34 User is offline   hereisarun Icon

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 09:12 AM

Thanks for your reply roddymckay.

Im not sure if MobileMe service is offered to Indian customers by Apple.

Arun
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Posted 09 February 2009 - 09:18 AM

Hi spinoza2, Thanks for your reply & wishes.

My problem is when I try to go to iWeb, it takes me to MobileMe service which asks me to try it out for 60 days.

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 09:22 AM

You get 60 days to try it out for free. Go ahead and try it to see if it will work for you.
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Posted 09 February 2009 - 09:34 AM

Arun, the default with iWeb is indeed MobileMe, but you can easily change this by clicking on your Website icon in the left sidebar (the site management pane). There you can change your default option to ftp instead of MobileMe. You then need to fill in your ftp server info. You only need to do this once for your site, iWeb remembers your settings. After you've successfully added your ftp server info, clicking on the ?Publish? button will send your site to your ftp server or hosting service. You can see this demonstrated at: http://www.apple.com...fe/iweb/#manage

I wouldn't do the MobileMe trial unless you were serious about subscribing to it. I personally use MobileMe because it makes publishing even more seamless and easy with iWeb, but it isn't necessary.

Once again good luck on your site!
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Posted 09 February 2009 - 05:24 PM

It has been interesting to look at some of the sites that have been offered here. Some are very slick and professional looking. Mine probably isn't but then, I'm an artist--semi-retired and haven't the slightest interest in learning XHTML. I did do some, found it interesting, but don't have the necessary memory to keep all that inside where I need it. iWeb is a whole lot easier to use, more like an artist normally uses the brain. Coding is certainly alian to my type brain I think. I have a web page here for you to look at. My intent was to "keep it simple". No frills, just a place to exhibit my work that's very easy to update. Take a look when you have time.

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 11:37 AM

I was hoping iWeb09 would add the one feature I most wish iWeb08 had, but it doesn't: support for tables. If you look at the table I built at http://www.danpitt.c...estaurants.html
you will notice that it is impossible to highlight and copy a single row. This is because the only way I could build the table so that everything in a row was aligned was to build it using seven different text boxes, each for one column. Maybe if there were a consistent Tab feature I could have tabbed to each column place in a row in a single text window, but I have not found that. Has anyone else? Plus, the first and last columns (restaurant type and pithy comments) sometimes run to two or three lines, and the overflow lines also have to line up in their column. That's why I need a table. For a while I used an HTML snippet but it became a nightmare to update, and avoiding HTML is one of the huge advantages of iWeb. Any suggestions?
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#40 User is offline   tedpainter Icon

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 04:48 PM

Hi Dan,

I'm going to start by saying I'm an artist and not a web builder. Still, if you are asking my opinion you must think you have a thick skin at least ;-) so I'll put in my thoughts.

1st. I'd suggest changing the page to more than one. Too much on that single page. Make your first page just your introductory with your title plus some text of explanation and then links to your other pages. I wouldn't put those restaurants on the first page at all. I'd provide more room for comments by a link for each restaurant that opens just the text you wish to provide about that particular restaurant. Let people decide what it is they want to see and then provide a simple way to get to the info. Most people have newer computers nowadays so you can open up the width of your page too. You can spread out more.

As to your problem with tables I just ignored it since I don't have any idea how to approach it. That being the case I just set it up for normal text which can be easily selected/copied/pasted. Any word can be made into a link too of course which might make it easier and quicker to lead the viewer to the comment section or wherever you want to take them. Just imbed the links right in each word. For example: Under "$" you could have a link with more detailed info about the menu prices. Or--just leave out OTC and offer the info on top that if they have open table reservations it can be gotten by clicking on the link to the restaurant. You can't do much about one that has no web presence of course except leave it out but you'll have gotten rid of one column and freed up that space.

As to routinely updating the site I tried setting up a tab limited text page just for the purpose using "Text Edit". Once you get it set up so that tabbing takes you to the next spot for your column typing in the info is quick and then it's just a matter of copy/paste into iWeb in the correct spot. Everything lands in the correct spot. Any long paragraphs have to be separated but it doesn't take much time to do that. I've included a screen shot. I just took one of my pages and quickly changed it to see what could be done. No effort at design here!!!!

I'll include it here. Hope all goes well for you.

Ted

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 04:55 PM

One more thing. That file I included comes as a "download" so don't look for it to show up on your monitor. You'll have to go look for it in your downloads folder.

The next thing I didn't explain in using Text Edit, or any other such, is that once you have everything set up as to spacing and then copy it into your iWeb page, it'll show up exactly as you've set it up. It won't be necessary to fool around as I stated making things fit. You do that part ahead of time then save that Text Edit page as a "style" with a name you can use every time with the same results. You can do separate pages for any part of the iWeb site that requires it and only have to do the set-up once.



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Posted 10 February 2009 - 05:39 PM

Dan, tables are a tough one in iWeb, there's no native support for them. I'm not sure why, since it would be easy enough to implement, but it could stem from the iWeb programmers desire to keep users from using tables for page design (prevalent in the past but which is frowned on in Web design circles today).

You've got a nice restaurant listing which clearly is as good an example as any for having a legitimate table. It's become a long listing, so it could be reworked into something else, but I can see why a single long listing is functional (fast scrolling, quick searching, using the Find command in one's browser, etc.).

What I've done in such situations in the past is to build and maintain the table in Pages (Keynote works as well), and then to copy the table into iWeb by using the commands CTRL A (select all), CTRL V (copy all) to copy the table from Pages, and then to paste it into iWeb. What iWeb does with this is to create a PDF copy of the selected Pages document, in this case the table. Once pasted into your iWeb page, you can then position and size it as you wish.

The downside to doing this is that you can't search it, nor can you copy single lines, which I believe was the whole point of what you wanted to do. Such longer lists really are most at home in a dynamic file, such as some sort of Web-based Excel or Numbers page, or with a FileMaker-generated table. I have FileMaker, but I've never used it with iWeb before, so I can't say for sure how or if this would work.

I wonder if there is a Web-based service (like Scribd) that delivers such tabular information?
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