[mrgrumpy]

Any way of extracting a Blu-Ray disk? (Assuming I was A) crazy enough to buy an external blu-ray drive at current prices or B) so morally bankrupt that I would presume to want to view my legally purchased material how and where I want it.)

[BrianCummings]

No mister RealCrazy, it is not illegal to make a backup of your legally purchased DVD. Now if the movie industry would willingly take back my scratched DVD and give me a replacement copy of a fair price, say $1, I wouldn't need to backup my DVDs. Assume your rights are non-existent, and poof, they are indeed gone. We should always put our blind faith in industry and their concern for our welfare.

[Wondercow]

BrianCummings said:

No mister RealCrazy, it is not illegal to make a backup of your legally purchased DVD

Technically it is illegal in the U.S. To my understanding the DMCA supersedes the right to make a backup.

[Wondercow]

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[XMattingly]

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{size:10px) Macworld wrote: What is far dicier, from legal and moral standpoints, is ripping the media you own and distributing it.{size)

I think distribution is the key word, regarding the "legality" of DMCA. As long as it's strictly for your own use and you're only porting media to satellite media devices that you own, you're not distributing it. There isn't a darn thing that is morally dicey about taking a piece of entertainment you've paid for and putting it on another device that you will consume it on.

Copyrights exist to protect IP holders' ability to make money off their products, not to lock a consumer into a specific device.

[denke]

Will any of these programs let me rip the audio (i.e., the music) from my concert DVD's to an audio format that I can play in my car CD player or on my iPod at work or while exercising?

I don't have enough DVD's or enough time to watch my DVD's to worry about backing them up. But I would really like to be able to listen to the audio from my concert DVD's at work or in the car. I don't have a DVD player in either location, and the DVD's in question don't even have CD counterparts. Is there a relatively simple or straightforward way to do that? I'd be happy with MP3, WAV, anything like that.

BTW, I won't be distributing this music to anyone, except aurally to anyone listening when I play it. Music is a kind of software, and I feel pretty strongly about pirating software, having worked for a software company about 25 years ago. To make money by making software is harder than it looks.

Thanks.

[Wondercow]

denke said:

Will any of these programs let me rip the audio (i.e., the music) from my concert DVD's to an audio format that I can play in my car CD player or on my iPod at work or while exercising?

HandBrake will, though in a roundabout way. If you rip the DVD (or the individual chapters) to a QuickTime movie file you'd then be able to extract the audio, using QT, and burn it to a CD.

[jaaps]

I am. Anyone who put's up a dvd for his or her child at 6.00 AM in the morning half asleep has to battle himself through stupid menu's and warnings. And don't forget your glasses! I rip our (legally bought) most favorite DVD's using shrinkit on WinXP and delete all menu's and commercials to get nice handy autostart DVD's. If that's illegal, I won't buy DVD's anymore. Does Disney want to sell?

[webraider]

denke said:

Will any of these programs let me rip the audio (i.e., the music) from my concert DVD's to an audio format that I can play in my car CD player or on my iPod at work or while exercising?

I don't have enough DVD's or enough time to watch my DVD's to worry about backing them up. But I would really like to be able to listen to the audio from my concert DVD's at work or in the car. I don't have a DVD player in either location, and the DVD's in question don't even have CD counterparts. Is there a relatively simple or straightforward way to do that? I'd be happy with MP3, WAV, anything like that.

BTW, I won't be distributing this music to anyone, except aurally to anyone listening when I play it. Music is a kind of software, and I feel pretty strongly about pirating software, having worked for a software company about 25 years ago. To make money by making software is harder than it looks.

Thanks.

Aimerisoft's program claims that it can. It's not free but it's not expensive either. You can download the demo and try it. It would be the Ripper I believe. They have Windows and Mac versions so you have to look on their site. If you buy from them.. do it through PayPal.

[kronos46]

There should be no reason I can't make copies of my "Already Paid For" movie collection. I have 4 children. 3 are under 4 yrs old. We take DVD's with us in the car (for are sanity) and from time to time they can get scratched. They also love to take the DVD's from the storage rack and play with them. I personally would like to easily make copies so I do not have to buy the same movie 2 - 3 times. I don't think Disney is that hard up for money that I would need to keep buying Monsters Inc. (or any other titles) due to my children trying to play with the discs as toys. I purchase all my DVD's the LEGAL way. So for those who pirate and those who buy these movies are to blame. If there was no market for pirated copies then this would be a non-issue.

[hayesk]

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BrianCummings said:

> No mister RealCrazy, it is not illegal to make a backup of your legally purchased DVD
Technically it is illegal in the U.S. To my understanding the DMCA supersedes the right to make a backup.

The DMCA can claim that all it wants, but there is a previous fair use law that says you do have the right to make a backup. The DMCA must be challenged in court in context of superseding fair use law before it has any validity.

[hayesk]

dean_o said:

They don't have to be right or win. They just have to spend money until you quit. When the cost of defending yourself will ruin you, you effectively don't have any rights at all.

I'm sure the Electronic Frontier Foundation would love to help you out with court costs if a DMCA suit comes to pass. I'll bet the EFF is just waiting for a DMCA vs. Fair Use case to come before the courts.

[dammarin]

There is another program similar to dvd2one, called DVDRemaster. It costs money and I won't comment on it, because I haven't used it.

The interesting thing about it, however, is that it comes with another (free) program called FairMount, which will mount copy-protected DVDs (using VLC) and show them on the desktop as unprotected disk images. This way, the VIDEO_TS folder can simply be copied to the HDD with finder and it can be recoded without first ripping it.

[MacKayaker]

Bottom line - I think most of my protest to this kind of article and discussion is a practical one.

I'll grant that there are legitimate reasons one may want to create a back-up of media they have legitimately purchased - for their own use. And I have no real issue with that. I tend to buy CDs, as it makes that, for myself, far easier - and I like the extra info that comes with a CD versus a digital version of the same album.

As a practical matter, interacting with computer users day-in and day-out - I see this kind of info used for piracy. I see pirated software. I get queries on how to copy content borrowed, rented, etc. and what works for legitimate intentions - also works for illegitimate. I have users who have iTunes libraries that are messed up - and full of songs ripped from library CDs, etc. Since I observe far more illegitimate, I see it as not too wise to publically declare how to do this kind of thing. The info isn't without it's moral implications. Clearly no one of us should tell another how to use, or not use the info, but at some point - some responsibility has to be taken. With my customers, it's not my job to tell them how to deal, or not deal, with their media - but in a landscape of slippery slopes of rationalizations, it can be a challenge.