[LennyNY]

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Run VM Fusion & WinXP on a "only & absolute must basis". Quicken is one of those absolute musts situations - the Mac version is appalling and should be given away free of charge.

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Ditto, w/1 exception: I'd rather pay to use Quicken Windows than use Quicken for Mac free. Hope that changes soon.

[chrobrego]

I'm a beta tester, and can tell everyone not to hold your breathe on this one. I can't see how they can possibly have a summer release -- this isn't a beta guys, but a midlevel alpha. It is so unusable and unstable, that it's actually nearly impossible to function as a tester on it.
The beta testing program is also run haphazard with no direction, and updates are very few and far between (much different than how they run the Quicken pc beta testing.)
I inquired yesterday about when they plan on implementing the import module, and the staffer told me they hadn't built it yet, and try back in a "few months." Well, it's March.
Look for a Fall 2009 or Spring 2010 release.
I really don't know why Intuit bothers, when they are doing such a shameful unprofessional job.

[tomwmson]

And STILL they can have Turbo Tax run beautifully on Windows and on Mac. They have QuickBooks for Mac -- that works well too! ????

I continue being happy with CrossOver running Quicken 2007. This way even prints checks via my Mac setup. The on-line functions and connecting directly to bank/credit card accounts allows downloads and reconciliation - perfectly - no problems.

Quicken is a tad slower running within Mac OS X (10.5 in my case) -- but the alternative is apparently much worse and there is no improvement coming soon.

This is was a good and low-cost fix for my needs.

QFL 2009 when it is available? May be not!!
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[enb14]

chrobrego: That sounds like it was written by an unhappy developer :-) but thanks for the info. That's it, screw Intuit, once and for all. I'm still using Quicken 2003, so apparently it's already been six (!!) years since I resolved not to give Intuit any more money until they fixed the inexcusable bugs and came out with a decent product.

Word cloud? Cover flow?! I don't care for those things AT ALL. I just want a freakin' Mac finance program that is not a buggy, feature-poor POS.

[chrobrego]

This software so far is an absolute disaster. It's supposed to be released this summer but you can't even reconcile your checking account with the current beta, and most of the modules are yet to be incorporated.
The user interface is so cumbersome and unwieldy, that it is a chore to use. Unless it becomes radically stream-lined, I hate it.
No way in heck it will be ready for a summer release. It's that pathetic.

[tbsteph]

Wow! I downloaded the "beta" this morning to see if I can finally get rid of Windows entirely (Bootcamp - Quicken PC)

While I will not claim conducting an extensive test, for Intuit to even call it a "beta" is a stretch. It has lot's of eye candy but very little functionality. Many modules are not available and those that are are rudimentary. I would be stunned if Intuit has this "thing" ready to go any time soon.

[buranis]

It is now early July and we have heard nothing new concerning the final version of Quicken Financial Life for Mac. MacWorld Editors: can you give us a status report? Is Intuit going to miss its timetable again? I ma ready to switch to another application. iMoney? Can you give us a full revew of all personal finance options avaialble to Mac users? Thank you.

[chuckbo]

I like that idea of having a runoff of the different programs (and an update every three months).
The ones I've tested are: iBank, iFinance, Liquid Ledger, Money 3, Moneydance, Moneywell -- I forget the other couple that I tried and thought that they were beyond hopeless to even track.

All of these have major problems that usually fall into the categories:
- slower than you can believe even an a 2Ghz machine;
- why aren't you using a Mac interface;
- stunned that you could leave out basic features.

I ended up punting and I'm slowly writing my own (in between other projects), but I keep checking these every 3 months to see if any new releases have hit the mark yet. I really wish they would (since I only have 3-5 hrs/week to work on my replacement). So far, to me, the closes is iBank except that it might be the slowest ever written and the last version I looked at didn't do good cash-flow forecasting (tied into budgeting and monetary assumptions).

[SamW]

A few weeks ago I saw that Quicken's webpage for the program gave a release date of FALL 2009, indicating that the release date has been pushed back another three months. But now, I cannot find anything on the Quicken's webpage whatsoever about the Quicken Financial Life for Macintosh program. What is going on here!!

Like so many other users, I am very frustrated and ready to throw in the towel. I have spent three years running Quicken for Windows using Parallels on my macintosh. I have not wanted to convert to a new program because ALL my financial data (bank accounts, credit card accounts, 401(k), IRA and other investment accounts as well as my mortgage) are all in Quicken. Switching to a new program would be a major hassle. I had hoped that the new Quicken for macintosh would allow me to import the native Quicken for Windows files.

But I am ready to throw in the towel now. Running Quicken for Windows in a macintosh is also a major hassle! Any ideas on which Macintosh financial program I should use?

[andrewrodney]

>So far, to me, the closes is iBank

I agree. I might switch, certainly if the next version if Quicken doesn't support on line banking and bill pay which I hear it will not. Now iBank currently doesn't support bill pay but I was told they might and I can live without it. So far, iBank is looking like a good replacement.

[chuckbo]

I'm trying to test the new iBank 3.5. My import from Quicken (maybe 4000 transactions) has been running for four hours, and it shows that it's about 2/3 done (but I think it's made any progress for at least the last half hour).

The problem with Quicken is not only that the program's been mediocre for a long time, but Intuit is just an evil company to users.
They've ignored making meaningful improvements for Mac users but to continue to charge for upgrades.
They've turned off features (stock quotes) that they sold as a feature -- to try to strongarm people into upgrading.
They've shown before that they're willing to lock people out of their data in order to force them to buy upgrades (look what they did to people who bought the Canadian version of Quickbooks -- they sunset a version, for some people only months after they'd bought it, and the code self-destructed and forced people to buy the latest version.
There's probably lots more I've forgotten.

[shing]

I am also unable to find any reference to QFL on Intuit's website. The Quicken Community Forum established for QFL is locked down as well.

I was asked to participate in a survey a month or so ago regarding QFL and its features. I indicated that until the program offered more features, i.e. budgeting and investments, that already exist in Q2007, I would never purchase the product.

If they are smart they will throw in the towel on this product and start over. Why they never made Quicken for Mac more compatible with Quicken for Windows (including features) is beyond me.

[bdrmd]

I remain increduous that Intuit continues to kick sand into the faces of customers and
potential customers. Their flimsy offerings of Q for Mac over the years have been
insulting and poorly functional. They fail to offer appropriate customer service and fail
to improve the product. Isn't this a contradiction of what anyone, any company does to
maintain and build business?

[bdrmd]

I remain increduous that Intuit continues to kick sand into the faces of customers and
potential customers. Their flimsy offerings of Q for Mac over the years have been
insulting and poorly functional. They fail to offer appropriate customer service and fail
to improve the product. Isn't this a contradiction of what anyone, any company does to
maintain and build business?