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Posted 02 June 2009 - 07:16 AM
Designed for Mac users? Red, White, and Blue. None of those colors will match your other hardware products. Do they even have a reputation after the Zip drive?
You don't need backup software to copy your Home folder and other files to an external drive. I used Retrospect to back up my entire drive to CD-RW (back in the day). When I got a new Mac, I tried to restore some of my old files. The CD-RW drive read the disc fine, and Retrospect recognized the drive, but it rejected the backup claiming incompatible device/incompatible backup. So the updated version of Retrospect for the new Mac refused to recognize the prior version backup. Which made the backup now useless since I had sold the old Mac and old CD-RW drive. Retrospect packs all the files into a single file that only Retrospect can read. So none of that software could be restored.
So I don't trust backup software anymore. I just drag and drop my Home folder to my external drive. Files are backed up and can be accessible without any programs, that may later become outdated.
You don't need backup software to copy your Home folder and other files to an external drive. I used Retrospect to back up my entire drive to CD-RW (back in the day). When I got a new Mac, I tried to restore some of my old files. The CD-RW drive read the disc fine, and Retrospect recognized the drive, but it rejected the backup claiming incompatible device/incompatible backup. So the updated version of Retrospect for the new Mac refused to recognize the prior version backup. Which made the backup now useless since I had sold the old Mac and old CD-RW drive. Retrospect packs all the files into a single file that only Retrospect can read. So none of that software could be restored.
So I don't trust backup software anymore. I just drag and drop my Home folder to my external drive. Files are backed up and can be accessible without any programs, that may later become outdated.
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Posted 02 June 2009 - 09:07 AM
Can't say I like the colors, but the general styling and the prices are both nice. However, there is no discussion of the mechanism speed here or anywhere on Iomega's site ???, which is concerning. Probably 5400 RPM drives or worse. I'd rather spend just a little more and be sure I'm getting a 7200 RPM drive, even if it isn't as attractive.
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Posted 02 June 2009 - 10:45 AM
When I see "Iomega" and "hard drive" mentioned all I can think of is the last three sounds I heard from my Zip drive - "click", "click", "click". I'm sure Iomega's making great stuff now, right? They'll never see another penny from me.
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Posted 02 June 2009 - 10:55 AM
Iomega started about 10 miles from my childhood farm home in UT, and a hot tech start-up was something I never would've expected to happen as a boy. So I have a soft spot for them even tho' that "Iomega" now exists in name only somewhere in Asia and some empty bldgs up the road.
They produced, one after another, proprietary data saving formats, some very innovative actually, and devices that all tried to make storage somehow cool and exciting. Zip's the best known of course, and almost became a standard, save for the short life-times which ended in a "click," next was Jaz, an astounding (sounding) removable 1-2 GB platter, which I also bought as a backup device. Ironically they then introduced a tiny (for the time) mobile storage disk, which, if I remember right was called the "Click," ironically enough given the name's echo of a failing zip.
In retrospect it was all a doomed strategy from the first, tho' zip disks did get shelf space and were built into some PC's - but they were too small to keep introducing all these form factors that all needed to be stocked world-wide. And the devices and media had flaws.
Their backup software for the Jaz worked very well, btw, and save my database bacon at least once.
You still see pale echo of the differentiation strategy here with the color schemes and backup software pack, but it all seems more echo than choice now.
I still use Retrospect Express on my old PC (came with my first external HD). I think it's working, but have never had to find out....
Meanwhile, I find Superduper pretty super for totally backing up my iBook, with the old .Mac backup program for dailies of my key/new docs folder to an 8 GB thumb.
They produced, one after another, proprietary data saving formats, some very innovative actually, and devices that all tried to make storage somehow cool and exciting. Zip's the best known of course, and almost became a standard, save for the short life-times which ended in a "click," next was Jaz, an astounding (sounding) removable 1-2 GB platter, which I also bought as a backup device. Ironically they then introduced a tiny (for the time) mobile storage disk, which, if I remember right was called the "Click," ironically enough given the name's echo of a failing zip.
In retrospect it was all a doomed strategy from the first, tho' zip disks did get shelf space and were built into some PC's - but they were too small to keep introducing all these form factors that all needed to be stocked world-wide. And the devices and media had flaws.
Their backup software for the Jaz worked very well, btw, and save my database bacon at least once.
You still see pale echo of the differentiation strategy here with the color schemes and backup software pack, but it all seems more echo than choice now.
hillstones said:
Designed for Mac users? Red, White, and Blue. None of those colors will match your other hardware products. Do they even have a reputation after the Zip drive?
You don't need backup software to copy your Home folder and other files to an external drive. I used Retrospect to back up my entire drive to CD-RW (back in the day). When I got a new Mac, I tried to restore some of my old files. The CD-RW drive read the disc fine, and Retrospect recognized the drive, but it rejected the backup claiming incompatible device/incompatible backup. So the updated version of Retrospect for the new Mac refused to recognize the prior version backup. Which made the backup now useless since I had sold the old Mac and old CD-RW drive. Retrospect packs all the files into a single file that only Retrospect can read. So none of that software could be restored.
So I don't trust backup software anymore. I just drag and drop my Home folder to my external drive. Files are backed up and can be accessible without any programs, that may later become outdated.
You don't need backup software to copy your Home folder and other files to an external drive. I used Retrospect to back up my entire drive to CD-RW (back in the day). When I got a new Mac, I tried to restore some of my old files. The CD-RW drive read the disc fine, and Retrospect recognized the drive, but it rejected the backup claiming incompatible device/incompatible backup. So the updated version of Retrospect for the new Mac refused to recognize the prior version backup. Which made the backup now useless since I had sold the old Mac and old CD-RW drive. Retrospect packs all the files into a single file that only Retrospect can read. So none of that software could be restored.
So I don't trust backup software anymore. I just drag and drop my Home folder to my external drive. Files are backed up and can be accessible without any programs, that may later become outdated.
I still use Retrospect Express on my old PC (came with my first external HD). I think it's working, but have never had to find out....
Meanwhile, I find Superduper pretty super for totally backing up my iBook, with the old .Mac backup program for dailies of my key/new docs folder to an 8 GB thumb.
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Posted 02 June 2009 - 11:59 AM
bonesb said:
When I see "Iomega" and "hard drive" mentioned all I can think of is the last three sounds I heard from my Zip drive - "click", "click", "click".
Ancient history. Get over it and move on.
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Posted 04 June 2009 - 10:03 AM
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Yeah seriously. How man HDD manufacturers are there these days? 4? 3? Iomega is just putting it in a case and adding some software. In the last 20 years I have worked with hard drives attached to computers, almost all of the problems I have had were with the original drive and not the case, circuitry, fan, wires etc. Since we no longer use SCSI on regular everyday computers, my problems have been even fewer.
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bonesb said:
> When I see "Iomega" and "hard drive" mentioned all I can think of is the last three sounds I heard from my Zip drive - "click", "click", "click".
Ancient history. Get over it and move on.
Ancient history. Get over it and move on.
Yeah seriously. How man HDD manufacturers are there these days? 4? 3? Iomega is just putting it in a case and adding some software. In the last 20 years I have worked with hard drives attached to computers, almost all of the problems I have had were with the original drive and not the case, circuitry, fan, wires etc. Since we no longer use SCSI on regular everyday computers, my problems have been even fewer.
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Posted 04 June 2009 - 10:04 AM
[quote name='Peter Cohen']
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Yeah seriously. How many HDD manufacturers are there these days? 4? 3? Iomega is just putting it in a case and adding some software. In the last 20 years I have worked with hard drives attached to computers, almost all of the problems I have had were with the original drive and not the case, circuitry, fan, wires etc. Since we no longer use SCSI on regular everyday computers, my problems have been even fewer.
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bonesb said:
> When I see "Iomega" and "hard drive" mentioned all I can think of is the last three sounds I heard from my Zip drive - "click", "click", "click".
Ancient history. Get over it and move on.
Ancient history. Get over it and move on.
Yeah seriously. How many HDD manufacturers are there these days? 4? 3? Iomega is just putting it in a case and adding some software. In the last 20 years I have worked with hard drives attached to computers, almost all of the problems I have had were with the original drive and not the case, circuitry, fan, wires etc. Since we no longer use SCSI on regular everyday computers, my problems have been even fewer.
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Posted 07 June 2009 - 02:13 AM
Several years ago, I bought my first Iomega product, a 1TB RAID drive unit. It failed within several weeks of arrival and I RMAd it. Iomega replaced it with a refurbished (read their pathetic warranty policy) unit. The replacement unit, when it finally arrived, had a cooling fan that sounded like a power drill and the unit refused to initialize. When I looked up warranty information on the replacement, Iomega's site showed less than half of the original warranty time left. I set the defective unit aside and quickly ordered another brand to resolve my data crisis.
Several weeks ago, just for fun, I took the Iomega unit apart and discovered two lovely Hitachi 500GB hard drives inside. I tested each unit individually; neither would even spin up. They should have still been under Hitachi's warranty, having been manufactured in 2007. But Hitachi's website advised me to "contact the original seller" for drive service.
So I sent a nice, frosty little email to the general feedback section of Iomega. Several days ago, an Iomega representative called and left a voicemail, indicating my message had been referred to him and that he would try to make things right and wanted to change my opinion of Iomega. He said he would call me again later that day. He left no contact information. He never called back. My opinion, therefore, hasn't changed.
I used to work in printing and saw all the Zip drive fiascoes of yesteryear. I thought maybe Iomega had turned a new leaf. Forget it. Buyer beware! I wasted a little over $200 on a completely dysfunctional product. I can't believe anything they make is going to be dependable or worth what you pay for it. What a colossal sham of a company!
Several weeks ago, just for fun, I took the Iomega unit apart and discovered two lovely Hitachi 500GB hard drives inside. I tested each unit individually; neither would even spin up. They should have still been under Hitachi's warranty, having been manufactured in 2007. But Hitachi's website advised me to "contact the original seller" for drive service.
So I sent a nice, frosty little email to the general feedback section of Iomega. Several days ago, an Iomega representative called and left a voicemail, indicating my message had been referred to him and that he would try to make things right and wanted to change my opinion of Iomega. He said he would call me again later that day. He left no contact information. He never called back. My opinion, therefore, hasn't changed.
I used to work in printing and saw all the Zip drive fiascoes of yesteryear. I thought maybe Iomega had turned a new leaf. Forget it. Buyer beware! I wasted a little over $200 on a completely dysfunctional product. I can't believe anything they make is going to be dependable or worth what you pay for it. What a colossal sham of a company!
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Posted 07 June 2009 - 08:19 AM
Don?t bash the Zip drive.
The reliability difference between Zips and hard drives is nothing more than QUANTitative ? BOTH must be backed up because ultimately they all fail.
When hard drives had small capacity, were physically large and very expensive, and networking usually meant ?sneaker network?, replaceable media drives made sense. It was so great to be able to put 125MB, then 250MB onto a very pocketable, affordable, random access, and incrementally rewritable magnetic media disk.
Zips were merely a huge refinement of the floppy disk technology ? a technology that was essential in the evolution of computer technology. Bashing floppy technology make as much sense as bashing vacuum tube technology, or even the original Mac OS technology.
The reliability difference between Zips and hard drives is nothing more than QUANTitative ? BOTH must be backed up because ultimately they all fail.
When hard drives had small capacity, were physically large and very expensive, and networking usually meant ?sneaker network?, replaceable media drives made sense. It was so great to be able to put 125MB, then 250MB onto a very pocketable, affordable, random access, and incrementally rewritable magnetic media disk.
Zips were merely a huge refinement of the floppy disk technology ? a technology that was essential in the evolution of computer technology. Bashing floppy technology make as much sense as bashing vacuum tube technology, or even the original Mac OS technology.
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Posted 07 June 2009 - 11:56 AM
Martian said:
Don’t bash the Zip drive.
The reliability difference between Zips and hard drives is nothing more than QUANTitative — BOTH must be backed up because ultimately they all fail.
When hard drives had small capacity, were physically large and very expensive, and networking usually meant “sneaker network”, replaceable media drives made sense. It was so great to be able to put 125MB, then 250MB onto a very pocketable, affordable, random access, and incrementally rewritable magnetic media disk.
Zips were merely a huge refinement of the floppy disk technology — a technology that was essential in the evolution of computer technology. Bashing floppy technology make as much sense as bashing vacuum tube technology, or even the original Mac OS technology.
The reliability difference between Zips and hard drives is nothing more than QUANTitative — BOTH must be backed up because ultimately they all fail.
When hard drives had small capacity, were physically large and very expensive, and networking usually meant “sneaker network”, replaceable media drives made sense. It was so great to be able to put 125MB, then 250MB onto a very pocketable, affordable, random access, and incrementally rewritable magnetic media disk.
Zips were merely a huge refinement of the floppy disk technology — a technology that was essential in the evolution of computer technology. Bashing floppy technology make as much sense as bashing vacuum tube technology, or even the original Mac OS technology.
and tape cassette drives.
and the abacus, don't forget the abacus.... :p
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