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Post your comments for Hands on with Samsung's Android handset here

[gords2]

this says it is thinner than the iPhone - but it doesn't LOOK thinner - just goes to show the genius of Jonny Ive and team :)

[rab777hp]

It does look thinner, however I still think the HTC phones are better because of the trackball. And android is wayyyyy better than iPhone, any day

[polaris20]

Hey, thanks for the completely subjective statement that Android is better than the iPhone. Also, thank you for qualifying the statement with your reasons why it is better. That should prove very informative to those reading your post.

[rab777hp]

An opinion is subjective by definition.

BUt i will point out, Apple has some insane policies about the iPhone, you can't do anything good with it, unless you hack it, which can affect the stability and warrenty of the phone, so they lock you into only one source for apps on it, a complete and utter monopoly. With android, you don't have to hack it to do anything, and since its open source, you can even custamize your own OS and put it on your phone.

[huzzam]

rab777hp said:

It does look thinner, however I still think the HTC phones are better because of the trackball. And android is wayyyyy better than iPhone, any day

Gotta disagree on the trackball. I have a two year old Blackberry Pearl, and the trackball has been by far the most frustrating part of the phone. It usually will only scroll in two or three of the four directions, and sometimes, none of them. I've tried every method of cleaning & even disassembling it, and I'm convinced trackballs are just not a good fit for pocket devices (& the attendant pocket fluff).

[rab777hp]

I agree with you on the RIM trackballs, but the G1 trackball is great, I have a G1 and find the track ball a great substitute for a mouse, or when you don't want to use the touchscreen, you can keep your finger in one place, instead of moving it all over if you choose.

[itsjustme]

Prediction: Android will be the first OS to be hacked and disabled on a very large scale. In my opinion,there will be a major email-bot plague that will just continue the 80% to 90% spam issue and some serious issues with hackers wiping users phone. With an estimated 85% of all available apps (just under 5000 total),pirated for the android OS, who will seriously develop for the platform?
Please let us all know when android sells 10 million + phones. Last count was supposedly just over 1 million, with vendors over stocking their inventories.....no wait anywhere to get an android OS phone. iPhone will probably double their sales relatively quickly with the new 3G S and the $99 entry phone and their predictable Christmas surprise......

[rab777hp]

this shows just how little you know about computers. Android OS utilizes the most effective security mechanism to date, which is also used in google chrome; sandboxing. Sandboxing is the best way to prevent hacking, even if you can get into the device, you can't do anything because your stuck in 1 little insignificant 'sandbox'.

The iPhone OS on the other hand, uses Safari- the most vulnerable browser to date.
And for iPhones, i'm sure you know of the kill switch- all you have to do is get into apple and bye bye iPhone,
i'm sure the remote wipe feature can also be hacked as well.

[waveracr]

Looks like we have an Android astroturfer here in the Macworld comments section in rab777hp. I'm intrigued by the next generation of Android phones, but I don't really learn from "android RULZ, iphone DROOLZ" type commenters.

[itsjustme]

Malicious code is basically activated by the user. Open source inevitably leads to enormous problems. Well aware of sandboxing and all the lovely un-secure issues involved with JAVA, Silverlight and the biggy ADOBE. All of these are prime examples of sandboxing. My phone is a business tool and I prefer the security of the app store. Again, most of the apps for Android have already been pirated with instructions to install. One little opensource button to "upgrade" or "add new levels", can execute any code wanted by the programmer running concurrently with other programs. The browser hack winner this year, exploited safari with a SANDBOXING type program and got a user to click on a link.......enough said.

[rab777hp]

Nor do I, that is what I get on every iPhone/compteitor article I read here, except the reverse

[Wondercow]

rab777hp said:

this shows just how little you know about computers.

As usual, you love to dish out the criticisms and pejoratives all while excelling at hypocrisy:
>The iPhone OS on the other hand, uses Safari- the most vulnerable browser to date.
Safari is by far not "the most vulnerable browser to date". That distinction belongs to Internet Explorer. I'd love to see your data to support Safari being even the number two most vulnerable browser after IE.

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And for iPhones, i'm sure you know of the kill switch

As I'm sure you're well-aware of Google's kill-switch.
>all you have to do is get into apple and bye bye iPhone,
"all you have to do".... right.

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i'm sure the remote wipe feature can also be hacked as well.

Really? Why? On what factual basis do you base your assurance?

[Lancelot9201]

I was interested until I read that it's the same os as the G1, meaning Cupcake. As much as I too like my G1 I find it hard to use due to the very small fonts in messaging & email. Not all of us have the vision of a 20 yr. old & consequently get eye strain very quickly. Also, I was hoping to see an iphone size 3.5" screen, I hear someone has one planned but I've not seen it. Unfortunately I've been forced to go back to using an iPhone 3G I also own. I'd prefer to use the G1 for numerous reasons but until I "see" other font sizes, a larger screen or at least a zoom feature (in messaging, gmail & the email app) I'm stuck with my non 3G T-Mobile iPhone.