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Posted 16 June 2009 - 06:09 PM

Internet Explorer has the advantage of experience, IE has been around for longer, and Msoft cares more about security, Apple cares more about performance.

And I'd like you to point out google's kill switch to me? As the OS is open-source, someone would have obviously found any hidden kill switches, which could of course be disabled easily by custom OSs. But then again, Google has no reason for a kill switch- they don't give a crap about what you do with your stuff- its yours! Unlike apple, who seems to think that you are simply borrowing their stuff.

And everywhere is vulnerable, my point is, yeah, it is a big thing to get into apple, but the point is- if someone hacks google, my phone is still fine, if someone gets into apple, they could wipe all the iPhones there are.

Everything can be hacked. Fact of life. Time you learned it.
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Posted 16 June 2009 - 06:11 PM

Thanx Wondercow....well stated. I loved the "this shows just how little you know about computers"....I guess this guy is really Al Gore and he invented all this......
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Posted 16 June 2009 - 06:16 PM

Hey- don't have a go at Al, leave him out of this.
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Posted 16 June 2009 - 06:18 PM

http://www.engadget....-those-rascals/

http://www.theregist...8/10/16/androidkillswitch/

http://www.pcworld.c...icle/152383/whyandroidskillswitchisagood_thing.html

http://blogs.zdnet.c...ailures/?p=1078

http://www.computerw...ticleId=9117279



Here's a start...........
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Posted 16 June 2009 - 06:22 PM

While they say the 'retain the right to remove' does not mean they actually have a kill switch (which could be disabled), in fact, such removal would probably be an additional part of the android market- and no virtual 'kill switch' has been found, unlike in the iPhone
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Posted 16 June 2009 - 06:53 PM

rab777hp said:

Apple we know for sure has a kill switch.
From google, we have a vague piece of writing saying they have the right to eliminate malicious applications, it possibly could be kill switch- possibly not- point is: we don't know for sure.

Keep digging that hole--deeper & deeper. Google's quote is thus:
bq. Google may discover a product that violates the developer distribution agreement ... in such an instance, Google retains the right to remotely remove those applications from your device at its sole discretion
Maybe a kill-switch, maybe not? How do think Google will remove any offending apps--ask the user to mail their phone to Google for a wipe? And how will they do it remotely? If no built-in kill-switch how does Google "remotely remove apps from the user's device"?

Those of us with basic reading comprehension skills know for sure, those of us who want to believe that anything Apple is bad and thus no other company could possibly take the "worst" of the iPhone and use it for themselves remain ignorant.
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Posted 16 June 2009 - 09:10 PM

Android looks to be worth checking out. I like the iPhone but it could use a little competition to keep Apple on it's toes. Apple doesn't need to become like Microsoft.
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Posted 16 June 2009 - 11:40 PM

rab777hp said:

Internet Explorer has the advantage of experience, IE has been around for longer, and Msoft cares more about security, Apple cares more about performance.

Microsoft doesn't care about security. They only care about getting rid of the competition so that people have to buy their product whether it's secure or not.
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Posted 17 June 2009 - 08:39 AM

Are the fonts in Android fixed discrete sizes or can they be easily resized like on the iPhone?
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Posted 17 June 2009 - 09:33 AM

(I was sure that I posted this already, but maybe not. At any rate here it is)

rab777hp said:

Internet Explorer has the advantage of experience, IE has been around for longer, and Msoft cares more about security, Apple cares more about performance.

You do realize that MS purposefully ignores/ignored standards in order to make IE run faster, don't you? You do realize the their pursuit of speed (that they never attained to any great degree) has created some of the issues? And what exactly are you trying to say with "Internet Explorer has the advantage of experience"? In the context used it makes no sense.
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Posted 17 June 2009 - 12:08 PM

rab777hp said:

Internet Explorer has the advantage of experience, IE has been around for longer, and Msoft cares more about security

Hats off to rab777hp for this excellent bit of trolling. I really liked how he started out his trolling with statements that could pass as merely highly biased opinion and took his time working his way up to this truly absurd statement. If he'd started out with that, everyone would have just ignored him. As is, he worked up to it so carefully that (amazingly) people actually thought he was serious.



I'm on T-Mobile and got a G1 a while back. I also have an iPod Touch, and my wife has a (company provided) iPhone. I thought with both a G1 and an iPod touch I'd have the best of both worlds. But the phone was buggy, I had to reboot several times a day. Important features were missing or just didn't work (for email especially). Without multi-touch the interface was clumsy compared to the touch. And the G1 hardware was pretty disappointing, the level and compass detectors in mine were not working well and while I made fewer typing mistakes on the keyboard, I really hated typing on it. Overall it was a lot like running the latest bleeding edge unstable Linux distro on a cheap PC . . . kind of fun for a while, but by the end of a week I just wanted a working phone I didn't have to keep rebooting. So I returned it.



I'm really hoping some better Android phones come out, but Android itself will need to get a lot better too. There's a lot of potential, and I think with a good effort behind it, it could possibly overtake the iPhone. And I'd really like to have more than one good smartphone choice (especially given my dislike for AT&T). But I worry that this will be like a lot of Google projects, they develop a cool idea to the alpha or beta stage and then just drop it and move on to the next cool idea. The iPhone OS keeps getting better, Android has not developed nearly as much.
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Posted 17 June 2009 - 12:23 PM

I like how you changed the word 'third world' to poor education system, I actually grew up, attended school, was born and live in America. In fact, actually, america is behind these so-called 'third world education systems' you describe. So just shut up.

@eebclee- well, looks like you're not a G1 guy, and you had a bad experience, as for me, I have never experienced any of the things you have described, and love my G1 and its Android OS. Somethings just aren't for everyone, they way the iPhone isn't right for me.
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Posted 17 June 2009 - 02:08 PM

rab777hp said:

I like how you changed the word 'third world' to poor education system

I like how I noted the change and admitted it was antagonistic. Though I didn't start out that way, I did end up taking the high road. Let's see if you can do the same....
>So just shut up.
I guess not.

I find it amusing that you take the term "Third World" so personally but then profess to be born and raised in the US.
>In fact, actually, america is behind these so-called 'third world education systems' you describe.
I'm glad to finally know why your education is so poor--you've attained a formal education that is behind that of countries that don't even have schools and/or teach "state-approved" history, science, etc. There are decent schools in America, too bad you didn't attend one.

Enjoy the kill-switch you claim doesn't exist.
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Posted 17 June 2009 - 02:15 PM

I am born and raised in the US, the reason i take it so personally is that i am ethincally from what you call the 'third world'.

And i did attend decent US schools.

And I'm sure you know that in international standard the US is severely lacking in education, we have good education, but it needs to be improved.
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