[Macworld]

Post your comments for iPhone 3.0 from a corporate point of view here

[henryhbk]

And yet, you still can't sync notes from Exchange to the iPhone. I mean really, I can sync complex email, calendar and contacts records, but not PLAIN TEXT! People often cite other technologies that can be used in place of this, and I realize there are others, but in our work environment we use the notes frequently (phone list in the hospital for nursing stations, labs, radiology, etc..., where exchange contacts would be silly).

[staticvoid2593]

Will the iPhone work with my company's Goodlink server? Unfortunately the device isn't useful to me unless it does, since no other mobile remote access method is supported.

[bynkii]

henryhbk said:

And yet, you still can't sync notes from Exchange to the iPhone. I mean really, I can sync complex email, calendar and contacts records, but not PLAIN TEXT! People often cite other technologies that can be used in place of this, and I realize there are others, but in our work environment we use the notes frequently (phone list in the hospital for nursing stations, labs, radiology, etc..., where exchange contacts would be silly).

That's a limitation in EAS as I recall, not the iPHone.

[bynkii]

staticvoid2593 said:

Will the iPhone work with my company's Goodlink server? Unfortunately the device isn't useful to me unless it does, since no other mobile remote access method is supported.

Goodlink announced iPhone support a few months ago, as part of Good 6.0

[henryhbk]

There are other EAS devices (other smartphones) which can synch notes. This may be a mac version of EAS issue.

[montgomery_burns]

Will it sync tasks with Exchange servers wirelessly?

[staticvoid2593]

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staticvoid2593 said:

> Will the iPhone work with my company's Goodlink server? Unfortunately the device isn't useful to me unless it does, since no other mobile remote access method is supported.

Goodlink announced iPhone support a few months ago, as part of Good 6.0

Thank you for the pointer. Looks like it is only for the Mobile Control piece though: http://www.good.com/corp/intnews.php?id=pr090401b

This functionality seems very much like what the iPhone 3.0 release seems to provide, as far as centralized control of handsets.

Oh well. At least Good is developing for the iPhone now. Maybe messaging will come soon.

[dreyfus]

Well, actually the revised Enterprise Deployment Guide is available now and the list of changes is more than impressive. The Configuration Utility 2.0 has also been released, see http://support.apple...ownloads/iPhoneConfigurationUtility20forMacOSX, so... not that much of a shame. I do not think corporate IT departments started deploying the OS 3.0 within a few minutes, especially since activation servers were mostly overloaded yesterday.

[bynkii]

dreyfus said:

Well, actually the revised Enterprise Deployment Guide is available now and the list of changes is more than impressive. The Configuration Utility 2.0 has also been released, see http://support.apple...ownloads/iPhoneConfigurationUtility20forMacOSX, so... not that much of a shame. I do not think corporate IT departments started deploying the OS 3.0 within a few minutes, especially since activation servers were mostly overloaded yesterday.

to the company, no. But we started a small test with the initial drop yesterday, and this will make for a much better test.

Thanks for the info dude.

[leesweet]

It would be nice if we could ever get all the info from a person's directory record (or even as much as Windows Mobile gives).

For instance, using Contacts or third party Apps, I can't find room/location info and that (after the phone number) is what we use most. (This is with Exchange Activesync.)

And the new LDAP option only gives you the same 'contact' form info, nothing more.

Or am I missing something?

[Philotech]

Another reason to go for Blackberry: It's so much more efficient on data usage. Of course this is getting less of an issue every day, but at least over here in Europe where a large step out of your door gets you to the next country (almost... you get it) and where roaming costs are still horrid, this is an issue even for corporates.
Otherwise, all the points raised in the article are pretty much undisputed. For me (I have a corporate BB and a personal Touch) the main issue is the keyboard. The hardware kb beats the iPhone's touch kb hands down, so for everybody who has to reply to many of the received e-mails this is a major point. I can send and receive a hundred e-mails a day and still only have some 200 kb of transfer volume while the same would amount to many megs on the iPhone which cost you an arm and a leg if abroad.
One issue I miss in most comparisons of the BB and iPhone is size: The mere size of the iPhone IS an issue. While the actual size isn't so much different, I'd rather not put the iPhone in my pants' back pocket, while this isn't an issue with the BB (Curve model at least).

[dreyfus]

Philotech said:

Another reason to go for Blackberry: It's so much more efficient on data usage. Of course this is getting less of an issue every day, but at least over here in Europe where a large step out of your door gets you to the next country (almost... you get it) and where roaming costs are still horrid, this is an issue even for corporates.

The same email on the iPhone and BB will have exactly the same size, and the data traffic will be exactly the same.

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Otherwise, all the points raised in the article are pretty much undisputed. For me (I have a corporate BB and a personal Touch) the main issue is the keyboard. The hardware kb beats the iPhone's touch kb hands down, so for everybody who has to reply to many of the received e-mails this is a major point. I can send and receive a hundred e-mails a day and still only have some 200 kb of transfer volume while the same would amount to many megs on the iPhone which cost you an arm and a leg if abroad.

You can certainly say that the hardware keyboard beats the touch keyboard for you. It certainly does not beat it "hands down". Me and several people I know prefer the touch keyboard. Writing in more than one language on the BB is almost impossible, finding special characters is a nightmare. Again, emails on the BB and iPhone/Touch have exactly the same size, if they have the same contents. This statement is really voodoo.

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One issue I miss in most comparisons of the BB and iPhone is size: The mere size of the iPhone IS an issue. While the actual size isn't so much different, I'd rather not put the iPhone in my pants' back pocket, while this isn't an issue with the BB (Curve model at least).

Well, the size difference is almost non-existent (see e.g. http://www.flickr.co...an_h/667441709/ ) and I have my iPhone in the back pocket each and every day. It is a lot thinner than the curve and the glass screen is a lot more solid than the plastic on the Curve.

[Philotech]

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Philotech said:

> Another reason to go for Blackberry: It's so much more efficient on data usage. Of course this is getting less of an issue every day, but at least over here in Europe where a large step out of your door gets you to the next country (almost... you get it) and where roaming costs are still horrid, this is an issue even for corporates.

The same email on the iPhone and BB will have exactly the same size, and the data traffic will be exactly the same.

I think you're wrong here. The Blackberry server heavily compresses each e-mail, transfers only the first 2 kb of each and doesn't transfer attachments at all. Unless the iPhone behaves totally different when using Exchange accounts than when using ordinary accounts, mails aren't compressed at all, the initial chunk is a lot bigger and attachements are included in the initial transfer up to a certain size which is different depending on whether you're on WLAN (in which case even a few megs can be transferred) or WWAN (in which case only fewer and smaller attachments are included).

Otherwise, I had hoped to have made clear enough that of course anyone else's mileage may vary.