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MacBook Pro (17-inch, Mid 2009)

#43 User is offline   jragosta Icon

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Posted 22 June 2009 - 01:03 PM

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dreyfus said:

>....The colors on the glossy model are far less accurate though, especially skin tones are off quite a bit. You have to make faces almost red on screen, if you do not want them pale white in print.

Can't you compensate by calibrating the screen in the Display Preferences? I am not a big fan of glossy screens, but I didn't realize that the color and contrast exaggeration would be a problem for non-professional photography.



Yes. In fact, professionals are likely to be using something like Huey to ensure that their monitor is properly calibrated, so the inaccuracy isn't an issue. For them, the deeper blacks may be a positive.
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Posted 22 June 2009 - 01:41 PM

Martian said:

Can't you compensate by calibrating the screen in the Display Preferences? I am not a big fan of glossy screens, but I didn't realize that the color and contrast exaggeration would be a problem for non-professional photography.

By the way, I found ? at least with my eyes and lack of training ? that when I calibrate my Samsung monitor using the ?Expert Mode?, the resulting calibration profile has significantly less contrast than the non-Expert Mode.


Well, we use DTP-94 colorimeters and EyeOne Display software for calibration, this combo is generally considered the "best of breed". And even using that, there is no way to get the color accuracy to an acceptable level. The profile can help with printing, as printing with the exact profile will make the printer do some compensation. Still, results are not fully predictable, it is not real WYSIWYG ? it is rather: know the flaws and work around them.

I did not say this is a problem for non-professional photography in general. It will greatly depend on how predictable you want your results to be and how picky you are. We print hundreds of images each year at A0 (approx. 33 by 47 inches), every misprint costs a fortune, so we are picky. It will also greatly depend on the subjects (if the parts of the color range that are more off are prominent in the pictures). In our experience, reds are most affected.

Even Apple said, that they are keeping the anti-glare option on the 17" MBP for the "professional users". And there is a reason that the white iMacs and non-glossy Cinema Displays were SWOP certified, and the alu iMacs and the new 24" display are not, and never will be. They are less accurate and that's it. This does of course not say everybody has to prefer the one or the other. If somebody prefers popping colors, high contrast and does not mind the reflections, that is fine. Forcing everybody to carry at least a 17" notebook around if he/she wants a choice is really not.
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Posted 22 June 2009 - 03:01 PM

NOTHING WRONG WITH MY KEYBOARD, AND I DID NOTICE. CAPS KEY WORKS JUST FINE.
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Posted 22 June 2009 - 03:17 PM

Now I understand. This is so embarrassing for me; I didn't realize you are hearing impaired.

Please accept my apologies.
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Posted 22 June 2009 - 05:47 PM

Thanks, that is exactly the information I was looking for. Matte it is, then.
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Posted 06 July 2009 - 11:03 AM

A great article on the MacBook Pro Screens: http://twurl.nl/aiwhte
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