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melgross said:

It's the religious right in the country. Let's face it, the only sex they like is when one of their own commits adultery.:D

Don't forget they love torture too... I suppose not both at once?

[sfriesen]

yeah...should ban that as well

[dreyfus]

Well, the black-box approval process aside... I do not care if there is nudity/porn available for the iPhone or not. As I learned from a magazine article recently, there are several adult subscription sites offering iPhone optimized content already. So, we really talk about almost nothing new.
What they should not do (IMHO), is just change the policy and not give parents enough time to enable parental settings. Unless you are extremely conservative, they were not at all needed until now – most "explicit" lyrics in the iTunes store would sound pretty lame in your average school yard. If this changes, it should at least be communicated in advance. Other than that, I do not really mind.

[tuffmac]

I see your point that for a women to get pregnant, she most likely needs to me naked, or at least parts of her exposed. However, if you look at the statistics, "naked women" (AKA: Pornography) is one of the leading causes of infidelity in marriages, which leads to divorce in many cases. And a lot of the time, pornography alone leads to divorce.

So technically, apps like this, as well as pornography in general, are actually a major cause of family's falling apart. And the really sad thing is that children are the ones that suffer without an intact two parent home. Unfortunately, many times these improperly supervised children get involved in pornography themselves, thereby proliferating the problem and expanding the further degeneration of our society as we know it. For example, the mass murderer, Tedd Bundy, when interviewed by Dr. James Dobson on Death Row, said, "I've met a lot of men who are motivated to commit violence just like me and without exception, every one of them was deeply involved in pornography ? without question, without exception, deeply influenced and consumed by an addiction to pornography." In fact, the FBI's own study on serial homicide show the most common interest among serial killers is pornography.

[chase]

All good points. I hate to see a company as free thinking as Apple so anti-freedom with heavy handed censorship.
If they're going to censor Apps, why don't they censor which sites we go to on Safari on iPhone?

[tuffmac]

What Tedd Bundy said on Death Row in an interview by Dr. James Dobson:

"...I've met a lot of men who are motivated to commit violence just like me and without exception, every one of them was deeply involved in pornography ? without question, without exception, deeply influenced and consumed by an addiction to pornography."

If Apple stops adult content from coming to the App Store, I commend them, even if it's simply for their public image. At least it means Apple retains a certain level of moral standards. Good job Apple.

With that said, in the spirit of the 1st amendment, if Apple does decide to allow apps that stream or provide adult content, as long as there's a way to password protect it from kids, I'm good. Of course parents should be checking up on what's on their kids iPod/iTouch/iPhone anyway.

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tuffmac said:

So technically, apps like this, as well as pornography in general, are actually a major cause of family's falling apart.

Ridiculous statistic. Let's blame everything except the actual people involved.

It takes 2 to tango in a marriage. If a guy can't keep his hands off the keyboard, that's his problem. Or maybe the wife isn't fulfilling enough or whatever so the guy goes to porn to get his physical release or whatever. In either case, these 2 people probably were never compatible to begin with which is the real reason most marriages don't last.

[tuffmac]

I agree with you. They're both bad.

[MacTechAspen]

tuffmac said:

if you look at the statistics, "naked women" (AKA: Pornography) is one of the leading causes of infidelity in marriages, >which leads to divorce in many cases.

>...
>The FBI's own study on serial homicide show the most common interest among serial killers is pornography.
Without getting too far off topic, let me just say that your post is absurd. You cite statistics, prove it.

In most of the rest of the world outside of the US pornography is much more prevalent, and murder and infidelity is less so.

Naked women hardly constitutes pornography by most people's standards. I doubt this app is going to be the cause of the decline of marriages, much less western civilization.

[dreyfus]

tuffmac said:

I see your point that for a women to get pregnant, she most likely needs to me naked, or at least parts of her exposed.

Oops, uh, no details please :-)

>However, if you look at the statistics, "naked women" (AKA: Pornography) is one of the leading causes of infidelity in marriages, which leads to divorce in many cases. And a lot of the time, pornography alone leads to divorce.

Nudity is not pornography. You would not really call ancient greek sculptures or the paintings in the Sixtinian Chapel porn? If a marriage fails due to something as trivial as nudity, that might be for good.

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So technically, apps like this, as well as pornography in general, are actually a major cause of family's falling apart. And the really sad thing is that children are the ones that suffer without an intact two parent home. Unfortunately, many times these improperly supervised children get involved in pornography themselves, thereby proliferating the problem and expanding the further degeneration of our society as we know it. For example, the mass murderer, Tedd Bundy, when interviewed by Dr. James Dobson on Death Row, said, "I've met a lot of men who are motivated to commit violence just like me and without exception, every one of them was deeply involved in pornography ? without question, without exception, deeply influenced and consumed by an addiction to pornography." In fact, the FBI's own study on serial homicide show the most common interest among serial killers is pornography.

I would say, people pretending that things they do not like do not exist, and things that do not exist are what to live by are the major cause of degeneration. The US has the biggest porn industry in the world since the 1970s. If more than one out of thousand of their clientele would be violent, the FBI would have no time left to work on "studies"/sermons.

[tuffmac]

So, if people against pornography are the "religious right", are you the atheistic left? If so, that would explain your stereotypical comment.

[ChrisLJ]

Well I don't care what anyone says. Naked women make me happy. And beer, too.

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MacTechAspen said:

I doubt this app is going to be the cause of the decline of marriages, much less western civilization.

It's great you bring that up because I'm reminded of an article which I read that scientists recently uncovered what one might call caveman porn engraved on stone, etc. I'll have to dig that up but the point is, thousands of years later and nothing has really changed except the distribution methods and medium.

Blaming porn is like blaming trans-fats and sugars because they cause obesity when in reality it's really the person who's screwed up.

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faster than a speeding bullet, by the hurtling meteor known as Apple 's App Store approvals.

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Despite carrying a 17+ rating that warns of “Frequent/Intense Sexual Content or Nudity” and “Frequent/Intense Mature/Suggestive Themes”, Apple still removed the app from the store on Thursday.

>In my role as intrepid reporter,

You mean in your role as random guy on the internet. Last time I've checked journalists are supposed to check their facts, instead of publishing their personal speculation as such. It was a bit more understandable when Engadget did the same, as it is a blog site and not a real news site.

Wasn't Macworld complaining loudly a few years back when these lowly blog and rumor sites were trying to utilize the same press protections in lawsuits as if they were real publications? Maybe there is no such difference, except for the snobby attitude. Shame...