[sivad6672]

Agreed the issue with the whole iPhone Killer concept is that it's hard to kill the pioneer and the innovator - especially when they're one in the same. Apple will continue to make products that impress and grow as a household name and all these "[Apple product name here] - killers" are is ammo for Apple to keep up the potential - the more people that try to attack what Apple's doing - the more that more or less acknowledges that Apple is getting it right and they need to keep doing what they're doing because now everyone's following. Case in point - before the boom of the iPhone and after the boom of the iPhone - go research how many touchscreen phones existed in the market from then to now and you'll be quite amazed!

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The thing that I think Apple will always have a leg up on the competition, be it smart phones, computers or the like. They control the entire ecosystem. Not only the software, but the hardware and the entier software support subsystems like mobile me, iTunes, the App Store. Nokia has none of this and it would not be easy for them, in spite of Android to achieve all this. Apple started this whole premiss of the digital hub back since 1999. They have been planting the seeds for a long time. What people don't realize is that this Mac/iTunes/iPod/iPhone and to a lesser extent Mobile Me, where not created over night. It has taken Apple 10 years to cement the foundation to all of this. Their secret innovation has caught not only one industry by surprise, but several, and some have been turned upside down. The Mac platform, regardless of it's small market share compared to Windows PC, is never been as popular as it is today. They continue to gain ground, not at a staggering rate, but still gaining ground. What impact will Snow Leopard have? The iPod is still king regardless of what the competition has attempted to muster, the iPhone is changing the way people use these type of devices and has literally made the entier competing segments of the market attempt to emulate it. What other communication device has had this impact before the iPhone?

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I agree, nothing last for ever, but I don't see all this foundation that has taken Apple so long to but in place, easily emulated by any of the players today. That was my point. I am not saying that it can't be done, but it will not be easy and it might take strong partnerships under deferent independent corporations do be able to even come close, don't you think?

Some have good hardware, some have good software, some have this and others have that, but Apple today is the only one that has everything under one place and working together, and I really think this just the beginning of this digital hub thing. Also, it's not like Apple is not strategically creating partnerships of it's own.

[ski542002]

I've rambled about this before. It's always been about the superior OSX system, both on the iPhone and on Apple's computers. Nothing else is as integrated across different devices, and nothing else compares :)

[cmejia_]

Well real truth is the iPhone has been killed, it's just that many of the faithful don't see it that way. Touch screen done, 3G, done (took apple a second incarnation) compass done (it took apple a third incarnation). The iphone rides the wave the ipod created, people buy it because it's not functional but because it looks very very nice. And being a much anticipated device that in the surface does it everything as promised will always keep it popular.

[cmejia_]

Actually OS X isn't superior, it's just a spiffied Unix/Linux, and on the iPhone it's pretty inferior without the ability of multitasking something the crappiest phone is somewhat capable of. Once again it's like those who don't realise that Apple computers do cost more they'll try to justify it.

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Killed? Sure buddy. People don't buy it because it not functional?! Whatever.

[JakeT]

cmejia_ said:

Actually OS X isn't superior, it's just a spiffied Unix/Linux, and on the iPhone it's pretty inferior without the ability of multitasking something the crappiest phone is somewhat capable of. Once again it's like those who don't realise that Apple computers do cost more they'll try to justify it.

OS X is Unix, not Linux. It does have multitasking. You can listen to iTunes while looking at other apps. You can be on the phone and bring up other apps.

[JakeT]

cmejia_ said:

Well real truth is the iPhone has been killed, it's just that many of the faithful don't see it that way. Touch screen done, 3G, done (took apple a second incarnation) compass done (it took apple a third incarnation). The iphone rides the wave the ipod created, people buy it because it's not functional but because it looks very very nice. And being a much anticipated device that in the surface does it everything as promised will always keep it popular.

Well, if people are buying it, then it hasn't been killed.

[ski542002]

Good morning:

So, I'll phrase my reply by implying, "OSX being a spiffed up Unix" is kind of like" Windows being a spiffed up DOS". No matter how you slice it, OSX still works better by any account powering any piece of hardware. Good industrial design helps seduce the masses and drive sales for sure, but OSX is still the driving force, in my opinion.

[melvin ocasio]

This why I believe the iPhone can't be killed: touch screen phones have been around for a while even before the iPhone was released. What apple did was make that technology simple in terms of enduser. While most touch screen phones still relied on physical buttons and sub-menus apple went and eliminated the complexity of that those phones provided and made it simple for the enduser to understand and use. They created a phone that was truly a touch screen and and place their award winning os x in this small device. When Jobs introduced the iPhone he said that it was going to revolutionize the way we used cell phones and to a degree he was right. Apple created a phone that meshed all the features together and have them work well. Now everybody is playing catch up. Bottom line is that the iPhone even though not perfect but what it does... Does it with elegance. The problem is that all these phone makers have is that they are trying to beat the iPhone by mimicking it and buildinng on that. They have to bring something to the table that hasn't been done before and what ever that is they have to do it well.