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iPhone 3GS limited to 384 Kbps upstream

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 03:25 AM

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 03:42 AM

Sounds like a lawsuit to me. If they advertise HSUPA it needs to contain HSUPA. But where do they actually say that it is HSUPA? The specs page say HSDPA: http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 04:54 AM

This a very delicate issue. No where near i've seen HSUPA advertised but most users think that 7.2 Mbps imply both download AND upload maximum speed. So in a way this is a trap to all customers.
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 05:15 AM

The current phone has HSUPA, the bullet would be - "Now with real HSUPA", which sounds like a Jewish slang term to me. No offense to any Jewish folk.
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 05:16 AM

Ironically while the "S" stands for speed, it's not broadband speeds (like Apple was hyping up) which will be speedy, it's just the CPU and GPU which are speedy!
Wonder why they didn't talk them up as much?
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 05:37 AM

Geez, even my home high speed connection only has 512Kbps upload speed. Is it important that my phone have faster upload speeds?
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 05:58 AM

This is not good news for those of us who'd like to use iPhone with Ustream or Qik for streaming or for tethering for that matter. It almost seems that this is a design deliberately implemented to limit that use.
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 06:09 AM

Not really sure what is what, but I regularly see more than 640kps on the upstream on my speed tests here in the bay area.
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 06:09 AM

I assume you live in America. Many people elsewhere (Japan, southeast Asia, most of Western Europe) have home broadband connections that are 5-10 times faster than even the best consumer-grade offerings we have here. Also, many schools and corporations have far faster Internet connections.

So yes, while a phone with faster upload speeds don't help you, they help millions of other people. Heck, even my local coffee shop's free wifi is 1.5Mbps each direction.
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 06:10 AM

Are you all effing serious? Do you plan on running web servers or bit torrents off of the iPhone?
384 Kbps upstream is more than adequate to make http requests and send email.
Just like at home, downstream is where the money is at. It takes relatively little bandwidth to make a network request, signifigantly more (most often) to accept those requests.
File this under "non-issue", right behind "ninny little cry babies"
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It would not adversely affect tethering. A full sized computer does not make bigger http requests. It might make more, and more frequently, but I doubt anyone would ever really notice.
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 06:16 AM

DanielDecker said:

Are you all effing serious? Do you plan on running web servers or bit torrents off of the iPhone?

384 Kbps upstream is more than adequate to make http requests and send email.

Just like at home, downstream is where the money is at. It takes relatively little bandwidth to make a network request, signifigantly more (most often) to accept those requests.

File this under "non-issue", right behind "ninny little cry babies"

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It would not adversely affect tethering. A full sized computer does not make bigger http requests. It might make more, and more frequently, but I doubt anyone would ever really notice.

You're just trolling for pleasure here, right?

The Internet is a totally asymmetric system for you?

Because you wouldn't, say, want to upload video or photos from your iPhone.

No one would ever need more than 640K in one of the five computers we could ever need the U.S.
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 06:22 AM

384kbps is not adequate for most live video stream situations. Try sending a Photoshop file or even a typical 10 minute video clip to YouTube or longer to Vimeo.

This is major issue for some. Unfortunately myopic people like you can't fathom anyone else has different and more demanding needs. I was under the impression that people began to get a sense of "the other" somewhere past 2 years old. Apparently you haven't grown past that stage yet. I need upstream for WORK and was hoping the iPhone was a business class cell phone. It's not going to be viable in some professional markets with these limits.
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 06:29 AM

@DanielDecker:



Troll.
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 06:47 AM

@Glenn_Fleishman, cseeman, cv, etc...
So, I don't see things your way, have different needs, and express myself in an open forum. That makes me a troll and a 2 yr old? Nice guys, way to make your point.
I don't see why you all had to devolve into name calling. I never attacked you all personally. I have been a Mac user since 1986. I have made my living using and supporting Macs for over 10yrs. Point is, you cats don't know me, and to call me a troll is uncalled for. You can ask anyone who knows me, you will never find a more apologetic and ardent Apple supporter and evangelist.
I'm not trolling. Can you please explain how, exactly, you would stream live video from your iPhone? I used my 3GS to upload a clip to MobileMe the second day I had it, from downtown Memphis. It didn't seem to take too long, and I was actually quite impressed with the experience.
Fact of the matter is, 384 Kbps upstream is fairly common for home access as well.
To further my original point, perhaps your intentions are beyond the scope of what the iPhone is intended to offer. Just because you want it to do some magical thing, doesn't mean it can or ever will. The scenarios you are describing are obviously professional situations, seek a dedicated and professional solution, like a 3G data access card or USB stick. iPhone is most assuredly a consumer oriented device with consumer oriented features and limitations.
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