[Chris Breen]

tony_d, on 27 August 2009 - 10:51 AM, said:

Quick question: If we don't have QT 7 Pro installed when we upgrade to Snow Leopard can we download it later and get the key or are we out of luck once we're using SL?

Apple has told us that you will still be able to purchase QuickTime 7 Pro.

[ShutterbugDoug]

Proofreading recommended:

"there no way"
"is brand new viewer"
"They gray"

[shavingcream]

Trimming is nice, but can you cut and paste in a video like with Quicktime 7??? Is Flip4Mac working for QTX for wmv files??

[wingsy]

I'm guessing that QT7 will be put out to pasture when 10.7 arrives.

That would be a shame, since in this case "less is more" doesn't apply. QTX really is less.

[Jon Seff]

ShutterbugDoug, on 27 August 2009 - 10:59 AM, said:

Proofreading recommended:

"there no way"
"is brand new viewer"
"They gray"

My bad. Three-month-old twins and perfect articles don't always go hand-in-hand

[davekriss93]

I'm gonna guess that enough people will be annoyed with things they removed that they will re-appear long before 10.7. I'm annoyed that they took out the time bar in the preview at the Finder level in Leopard, now they removed it in QT Player as well, apparently. How does it not occur to Apple that these features are very useful?

wingsy, on 27 August 2009 - 11:10 AM, said:

I'm guessing that QT7 will be put out to pasture when 10.7 arrives.

That would be a shame, since in this case "less is more" doesn't apply. QTX really is less.

[leicaman]

wingsy, on 27 August 2009 - 11:10 AM, said:

I'm guessing that QT7 will be put out to pasture when 10.7 arrives.

That would be a shame, since in this case "less is more" doesn't apply. QTX really is less.

I'm betting that Quicktime X wasn't ready to replace QuickTime Pro. Like the borked version of iMovie 08, they probably just need more time to add the features that QuickTime 7 Pro offers to Quicktime X.

[natmusak]

Walt_Basil, on 27 August 2009 - 10:45 AM, said:

The trimming is suspiciously like that of the iPhone's. Coincidence? I think not. I imagine we're already using Quicktime X (or some iteration) and didn't realize it.

That's what it was billed as from the start by Apple: (paraphrasing) 'playback technologies pioneered in OS X iPhone':
http://www.appleinsi...uicktime_x.html

It was part of their original press release that was on the site until WWDC this year. QuickTime X's main focus is efficient, GPU-accelerated H.264 decoding/playback. That's why they aren't killing QuickTime 7.

[PetitPaul]

The new QTX interface seems nice to me, that is up until I have a chance to actually use it, I mean, but why did everything that was in QT7 (pro or not) had to go? I agree that the interface was ageing and badly needed overhaul, but why scrap so much and add so little?
So appart from the look of it, reduced editing possibilities, and minus a lot of other features, what is _really_ new in QTX? I was expecting a completely new and improved architecture, native support for more codecs (DivX, Wmv, avi, mkv, you name it...)?
Also, I believed QuicktTime was something like a framework that can be accessed by all applications, QT player only being one of them. So what is really new in QTX? Was it completely rewritten in cocoa, for instance? Is it natively running in 64bit? Does it have new and extended support for widely used codecs, that is non Apple ones? Is it significantly faster at encoding H264 (which was so slooooooow in QT7)? Will my current Flip4Mac wmv plugin still be working with QTX?
In the end, I understand this is not really a new QuickTime at all, this a new QuickTime _Player_ which isn't exactly the same. Unless of course, I missed something...
Fortunately ther is VLC, which recently reached 1.0 status, so, speaking of a true universal media player, what's new or not in QTX is of minor interest anyway...

[Wiggin]

Can QuickTimeX, and therefore hopefully FrontRow, play the 5.1 surround sound audio from iTunes Store HD video purchases? In Leopard, FrontRow will only play the stereo soundtrack regardless of which one you've selected in iTunes. Even though FrontRow is perfectly capable of playing 5.1 audio tracks from DVDs and video_TS files, it won't for iTunes Store purchases. I assume this is because QuickTime itself can't play them (if you open the file directly in QuickTime rather than iTunes only the stereo track is available).

[owmyheadhurts]

[quote name='davekriss93' date='27 August 2009 - 11:25 AM' timestamp='1251401103' post='754068']
I'm gonna guess that enough people will be annoyed with things they removed that they will re-appear long before 10.7. I'm annoyed that they took out the time bar in the preview at the Finder level in Leopard, now they removed it in QT Player as well, apparently. How does it not occur to Apple that these features are very useful?

I agree, Dave. I used that time bar in the preview all the time. Why they would remove that is a mystery. I don't get it.

[ppartekim]

Will QuickTime X playback mpeg2 videos or will we still need to purchase that codec separately like we did for Quicktime 7?

[Jon Seff]

ppartekim, on 27 August 2009 - 02:12 PM, said:

Will QuickTime X playback mpeg2 videos or will we still need to purchase that codec separately like we did for Quicktime 7?

I just tried it and no, an MPEG-2 file I created with VisualHub didn't play in QuickTime X. It worked in VLC.

[Hamranhansenhansen]

> Boy, they sure pumped up quick time
> to be more than just a player.

It has always been more than just a player. They're just making that more obvious now.