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[TheBum]

If you can't beat 'em, sue 'em. Does anybody else find it not surprising that they filed the suit as soon as iPhone market share passed up Symbian?

[kennethfcooper]

We get the impression from news reports that the only way to use the patent system is to sue someone. I wonder what percentages of patents are handled by mundane license agreements with no need to go to court. Question: is the patent system as broken as it seems?

[ibeetle]

Couldn't the title of this artical be:

Nokia sues Apple; Because they can

or

Nokia sues Apple; Nokia says, because if we don't somebody else will

or

Nokia sues Apple for becoming a competitor

[lwdesign]

How about:

"Nokia Sues Apple for Being Better Smart Phone Makers"

[wardoggie]

kennethfcooper, on 22 October 2009 - 08:16 AM, said:

We get the impression from news reports that the only way to use the patent system is to sue someone. I wonder what percentages of patents are handled by mundane license agreements with no need to go to court. Question: is the patent system as broken as it seems?

I think the system is broken, but not as badly as it seems. We just get that impression because no one issues press releases that start with "Company A and Company B reach amicable licensing agreement on Company A's patented technology without involving any legal action." We only hear about companies suing each other.

[tech_head]

I have an issue with waiting years to sue.
Sue when the infringement comes to light not after a company has shipped a boatload of goods.

[liveinabin]

Oh dear. Looks like they haven't been selling as many N97s as they would have liked.

[Eric72]

TheBum, on 22 October 2009 - 07:59 AM, said:

If you can't beat 'em, sue 'em. Does anybody else find it not surprising that they filed the suit as soon as iPhone market share passed up Symbian?

Lol. So true. Really now, it's taken 2 years for Nokia to realize that Apple has infringed on "their" intellectual property? Yeah, right. More like it took Nokia 2 years to come up with something to get Apple for, and even that's grabbing at strings.

[aceshelman]

Are other phone makers using these same technologies belonging to Nokia? Are they paying the proper fees to use them? If yes, then apple needs to also. If no, then Nokia needs to shuttie.

[KPOM]

tech_head, on 22 October 2009 - 12:17 PM, said:

I have an issue with waiting years to sue.
Sue when the infringement comes to light not after a company has shipped a boatload of goods.

We don't know all the facts. Perhaps they have been trying to reach a settlement for the past two years. Perhaps the infringement just came to light.

Remember Apple claims to have patented many of the features of the iPhone, including multi-touch. Would you take issue with Apple if they sued Palm or Microsoft in 6 months claiming that WebOS or WM7 infringes on their patents (assuming the claim is valid)?

Often, these lawsuits end with out-of-court settlements for royalties and/or cross-licensing.

[KPOM]

aceshelman, on 22 October 2009 - 12:40 PM, said:

Are other phone makers using these same technologies belonging to Nokia? Are they paying the proper fees to use them? If yes, then apple needs to also. If no, then Nokia needs to shuttie.

From Nokia's press release:

"Much of this intellectual property, including the patents in suit, has been declared essential to industry standards. Nokia has already successfully entered into license agreements including these patents with approximately 40 companies, including virtually all the leading mobile device vendors, allowing the industry to benefit from Nokia's innovation."

It sounds like they are getting royalties from other phone makers, and that's all they are looking for here.

[Rugby]

darn.... results are crap again 3rd quarter in a row hmmm if Apple haven´t broken into our lab all those years ago and stolen every idea we could have taken the market *hum* "We could have been anything we wanted to be but we took the easy way out..."
http://news.icm.ac.u...l-results/4183/

(note that the Nokia phone in article bears an uncanny resemblance to the iPhone)

maybe it´s a new "Apple stole Xerox GUI all those years ago"

all comments in my comment is... ; )

This post has been edited by Rugby: 22 October 2009 - 10:07 AM

[rab777hp]

Well, patents are patents, and shall not be infringed; if apple broke the law, that's what they did then.