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Well they had to respond. Meanwhile our iPhone 4s are the best iPhones we've had. Better, faster connection. And this is the experience for most users.

I can make the signal degrade if I really try, but in everyday use, no problems. It's perfect.

Ah, the sh*tstorm continues. I wonder how they will wriggle out of this one, short of a wholesale recall. I'm not sure they can deny it any longer, they're going to have to make some sort of concession.

If they hold the event the wrong way, will it cause the press reception to fail?

The proximity sensor issue can be linked to deactivating the accelerometer to lock the display in portrait mode. A friend had that problem and discovered that the accelerometer was locked in portrait mode. Once she unlocked the accelerometer to normal operation, the proximity sensor worked as expected. (Double click the home button and slide the icons to the right to display the iPod controls and accelerometer lock option).

I agree with Applecrate, the iPhone 4 is the best phone I have had, and it gets far better reception than the original iPhone. If I "death claw" the original iPhone, the signal goes down too. Simple solution, hold the phone without smothering the bottom edge. With the iPhone 4, I can now makes calls in places that I never could with the original iPhone.

These people suing Apple are fools. They have no proof of damages whatsoever because they will continue to use their iPhones quite happily. They are just greedy litigants that demand everything free in life. Even my Moto Razr V3 fluctuated in signal strength whenever I picked it up. Honestly, is it really hard for these people to buy a case, which I am sure they were already planning to do anyway? So far, I don't have a case and I have never missed a call or had signal problems by holding the phone. All these lawsuits just prove what a sad country this has become.

It is amazing that no one ever sued Sony because the Walkman was portable and FM station signal reception would fluctuate depending on where you went. How dare Sony make a product that did not *always* receive FM stations. These plaintiffs are so stupid.

This post has been edited by hillstones: 14 July 2010 - 05:13 PM

Please do ask them about proximity SENSOR cause it is not getting media attention like the Signal problem but media needs to cover this story cause PROXIMITY SENSOR problem is far more bigger problem than the signal issue and Apple doesn't even want to acknowledge the proximity problem

If as hillstones mentioned above, the prox sensor issue can be fixed by simply unlocking the accelerometer, then I certainly wouldn't call it a "big problem". A simple software change could easily resolve the issue. The big issue for me is that wifi does not shut down anymore when my iTouch goes to sleep, running my battery down much faster than it used to. Should I sue Apple because of it? The simple fix (for now) is to shut the device down when I don't plan on using it for a while when I'm near wifi. A bit of a pain since it takes nearly 45 seconds for it to reboot, but again this is a simple issue that can be resolved in software by giving us the option in "Settings", "Wifi", to have the option of letting wifi shut down when the iPod sleeps. Not worth suing or throwing a hissy fit over.

Jason,

This is the first time since the iPod where Apple is facing such a backlash. Customers are paying attention (and not just the fanatics). There are also compelling alternatives on the market this time.

I remember the "Pentium can't divide" fiasco. Much like now, it was "Not a big deal", and "prove to me you need the math". The problem then was much more rare than this, but Intel deservedly got clobbered. They ultimately redeemed themselves with offering a new, corrected, Pentium to anyone who asked. A processor that can't do math?! It took quite a while for people to trust them again. History appears to be repeating itself with the "Don't hold it that way", "It's a software issue", "It's not a big deal", and "use the rubber bumpers". I sincerely hope Apple offers acceptable, well intentioned solutions. For them, it is an opportunity for redemption. If they offer arrogant, or dismissive answers, or a bunch of magical marketing BS, then you better nail them. Your own credibility is on the line too.

This post has been edited by klahanas: 14 July 2010 - 06:08 PM

hillstones, on 14 July 2010 - 05:11 PM, said:

I would agree with you on your Walkman example if there were no station no matter how they held it. I would agree with you if they held it from the antenna. In this case the antenna is in the way...

klahanas, on 14 July 2010 - 05:56 PM, said:

That's actually a great example. I had one of the Pentiums in question on a PC from a generic box seller. In reality, it wasn't really an issue except for some odd Excel results when running a handful of obscure calculations. Before Intel announced the recall I went back to store and the owner tried another Pentium, to no avail. I can't even remember at this point whether I got the replacement chip, but I certainly remember the PR damage. Intel's stock took a real beating, but recovered quite nicely after they made the recall available.

At the end of the day, this is a relatively minor technical issue, but a huge PR issue. Now that people know about the problem, they'll unconsciously notice it more often. They may even attribute dropped calls to it that are caused by other factors. Hopefully Apple announces some type of fix, whether it's providing free "bumpers," a clear coating to shield the antenna, or something similar. If they do, this will blow over pretty quickly.

The the most valuable fans a company (or religion or political party or any institution) can have are those that hold that company accountable when mistakes are made. Those that always insist on top quality products time and time again. Those honest "critics".

The worst thing for any company is to listen only to their apologists.

Thanks, Apple "critics", for making Apple the company we see today and will hopefully see on Friday. Without you, our beloved company would have failed many years ago.

I just hope that Steve's pride hasn't been so wounded by releasing an imperfect product that he's still unable to see that this is a real issue for a not insignificant number of users, and an even bigger problem in the realm of uninformed public perception.

The fact that they're holding this press conference seems to suggest that he does release this.

Now I wish I had rushed out to buy one of those first release IPhone 4s. They're about to become collector's items.

…ahh wait a minute, they sold 1.7 million of them…

I too hope that the iOS4 is addressed in respect to the iPod Touch. I have a 2nd Gen 16Gb iPod Touch with the battery drain issue. I am dealing with that by using Airplane mode until there is a fix. The other significantly noticeable thing for me is that it is so much slower than 3.1.3 was. It stutters when I switch between apps. I wish I could easily go back to 3.1.3. I wait hopeful that iOS4.1 will be zippy again.