[Macworld]

Post your comments for First Look: iOS 4.2 beta 1 here

[grantmcconnaughey]

So how much of this will work with the iPhone/iPod Touch? Are we getting AirPrint, AirPlay, and Notes enhancements as well?

[matthewmiller1234]

Don't you mean you can hold 20 folders? Read that somewhere else.

grantmcconnaughey, on 15 September 2010 - 05:08 PM, said:

So how much of this will work with the iPhone/iPod Touch? Are we getting AirPrint, AirPlay, and Notes enhancements as well?

Yes, we will get this update as well.

[tjbackstage]

I got it on my iPad easily, but I can already tell that there are some huge problems. Mail is continuously crashing on me...I tap a button, it closes. The software orientation lock will most likely be removed due to the fact that errors exist since a hardware lock exists. The brightness control being easier to access is nice, but it seems likely to be replaced by a software volume controller (which, unlike the orientation lock, will not have problems with the hardware volume controls). Multitasking is nice, but it is kind of a bummer that apps (heck, even including my own) will have to be recompiled for iOS 4 since they just restart every time you go back to them. Nonetheless, its availability months early is good as it allows Apple to find more problems and for developers like myself to add in new features (and probably more importantly: recompile for iOS 4 so multitasking will be smooth).

[saikung]

tjbackstage, on 15 September 2010 - 05:37 PM, said:

I got it on my iPad easily, but I can already tell that there are some huge problems. Mail is continuously crashing on me...I tap a button, it closes. The software orientation lock will most likely be removed due to the fact that errors exist since a hardware lock exists. The brightness control being easier to access is nice, but it seems likely to be replaced by a software volume controller (which, unlike the orientation lock, will not have problems with the hardware volume controls). Multitasking is nice, but it is kind of a bummer that apps (heck, even including my own) will have to be recompiled for iOS 4 since they just restart every time you go back to them. Nonetheless, its availability months early is good as it allows Apple to find more problems and for developers like myself to add in new features (and probably more importantly: recompile for iOS 4 so multitasking will be smooth).

Uh, it's a beta!

[Hamranhansenhansen]

> After three long years, our national
> nightmare of Marker Felt is finally over.

AWESOME.

[beeble42]

tjbackstage, on 15 September 2010 - 05:37 PM, said:

I got it on my iPad easily, but I can already tell that there are some huge problems. Mail is continuously crashing on me...I tap a button, it closes. The software orientation lock will most likely be removed due to the fact that errors exist since a hardware lock exists. The brightness control being easier to access is nice, but it seems likely to be replaced by a software volume controller (which, unlike the orientation lock, will not have problems with the hardware volume controls). Multitasking is nice, but it is kind of a bummer that apps (heck, even including my own) will have to be recompiled for iOS 4 since they just restart every time you go back to them. Nonetheless, its availability months early is good as it allows Apple to find more problems and for developers like myself to add in new features (and probably more importantly: recompile for iOS 4 so multitasking will be smooth).

Recompiling won't help. You have to actually implement the relevant methods in your app delegate so that your app will know when it's state is changing and handle it appropriately (save state, release memory to avoid being terminated due to low memory, etc). It's just like handling the transition to suspended state (eg when a phone call comes in) in previous versions of iOS. There's just more states to move to so more methods to implement to handle the new transitions.

[isorod]

Does anyone know if Apple will allow third party apps to use the AirPlay API in their apps?

[tjbackstage]

beeble42, on 15 September 2010 - 06:43 PM, said:

tjbackstage, on 15 September 2010 - 05:37 PM, said:

I got it on my iPad easily, but I can already tell that there are some huge problems. Mail is continuously crashing on me...I tap a button, it closes. The software orientation lock will most likely be removed due to the fact that errors exist since a hardware lock exists. The brightness control being easier to access is nice, but it seems likely to be replaced by a software volume controller (which, unlike the orientation lock, will not have problems with the hardware volume controls). Multitasking is nice, but it is kind of a bummer that apps (heck, even including my own) will have to be recompiled for iOS 4 since they just restart every time you go back to them. Nonetheless, its availability months early is good as it allows Apple to find more problems and for developers like myself to add in new features (and probably more importantly: recompile for iOS 4 so multitasking will be smooth).

Recompiling won't help. You have to actually implement the relevant methods in your app delegate so that your app will know when it's state is changing and handle it appropriately (save state, release memory to avoid being terminated due to low memory, etc). It's just like handling the transition to suspended state (eg when a phone call comes in) in previous versions of iOS. There's just more states to move to so more methods to implement to handle the new transitions.

Hmm...I didn't know that. I've only worked on the iPad when doing iOS development (no iPhone yet). Just would have thought that it would've handled itself. Looks like I've gotta figure that out now, too! Thanks!

[aralim_1]

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We’ll be honest: after checking out iOS 4.2, the idea of going back to 3.2.1 is inconceivable.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

This post has been edited by aralim_1: 16 September 2010 - 01:29 AM

[john_goodman]

aralim_1, on 16 September 2010 - 01:26 AM, said:

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We’ll be honest: after checking out iOS 4.2, the idea of going back to 3.2.1 is inconceivable.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

"inconceivable - not capable of being imagined or grasped mentally; unbelievable" (via Apple's Dictionary)

[fibercut]

Man I wish Airplay would play to more than just one device at a time.

[reifer]

however, AirPrint will work one of two ways at launch: with a compatible printer from HP (and eventually, we presume, printers from other manufacturers) or with printers shared via your Mac or PC.

Does that mean that you can't print to printers plugged into an airport express? That would be ridiculous!

[arkham999]

Why in the world would they corrupt the lock switch to be a mute? You can already mute by holding the volume-down for about 1.5 seconds.

I really, really hope that the behavior of the hardware lock AS a hardware lock is allowed. That's something I'd jailbreak for. I keep my iPad locked in landscape 100% of the time. Portrait is worthless for anything except book reading.