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Wow.

This is the first time in a long time I've been completely underwhelmed by an Apple product announcement. Some individual features that I can recognize as kind of cool, but really not one thing today has me wanting it. Or, even, wanting to want it.

I didn't think I would ever feel like it, but technology has really brought my expectations to higher grounds.

This is very unexciting!

I would give it to the iMovie guys, I think there is a lot of merit behind the Movie Trailers and Audio Editing.

But Steve really left iDVD out of it, probably because they haven't changed it a bit, after four years??? Come on, Toast it is a lot better than iDVD.

What about iPhoto with actual face retouching technology, or Garageband with greater Podcast editing tools?

Although I was hoping for an optional linear timeline for iMovie, it is cleat that Apple no longer offers an entry level movie creation application.

iMovie 11 is brilliant and very appealing for intermediate users but unlike iMovie HD and earlier, it is not something that you can present to an elementary school student or to a inexperienced consumer and simply set them loose. Its interface is non-intuitive very left-brained in its design. Most folks I've talked to over the past couple of years have expressed confusion.

There have been occasions in the past when I launched iMovie (and even Kennote) and knocked out a 30 second marketing video in minutes while saving the big guns for more advanced work. No longer. Frankly, I find the high end NLEs to be much easier and more intuitive. I'm definitely sticking with Premiere Pro and Final Cut Pro.

OK, Steve, you convinced me to finally move my net stuff over to iWeb, and now you're leaving it out!?!? Darn well better be replacing it with something compatible!

Is there an iDVD??? - didn't see the logo on the iLife screen.

RickMacDr, on 20 October 2010 - 10:39 AM, said:

There was an iDVD in the shot but no mention of anything related to it.

skyeandangus, on 20 October 2010 - 10:38 AM, said:

What gave you the impression iWeb is being left out? It was explicitly stated up front that all the same apps are still there from last time. Obviously it's just the case that iWeb didn't get substantial enough updates to warrant inclusion in the presentation. Ditto, apparently, IDVD for the next poster.

Both iWeb and iDVD are still part of iLife, but their changes weren't enough for Steve to spend time with them. They have received some updates, though, the question is how much.

venividivici, on 20 October 2010 - 10:35 AM, said:

Uh, because this is almost 2011. What's a DVD again?

John, on 20 October 2010 - 10:38 AM, said:

That's an unsettling comment, given that the whole reason the new iMovie came into being was to simplify the mainstream use cases for kids and inexperienced consumers.

RickMacDr, on 20 October 2010 - 10:39 AM, said:

Steve-o announced the death of optical (actually, DVD) a while back. Big error in judgement. I use (and burn) DVDs all the time and thanks to ten years of digging through heavily discounted used DVDs at Blockbuster, I have a collection of over 500 titles. I would much rather pop in a disk than hassle with converting it and storing it on some hard drive that is destined to eventually fail or to committing thousands of dollars in drives to backup my library.

The full gallop movie towards streaming and hard disk / SSD storage will have long-term repercussions. Like everyone else, my family has a ton of boxes and albums of old photos, some of which go back over a century with photos of great grandparents and the like. Our great grandchildren will end up with only those odd photos that we took the time (plus hassle and money) to print ourselves. Everything else will be sitting in the attic on the computer of some deceased relative or simply placed on the street for the garbage collectors. We need a storage media that is portable, that will not fail due to age, and that can be accessed by future generations.

trichardlin, on 20 October 2010 - 10:49 AM, said:

That was exactly my point. Obviously they didn't add Bluray capabilities, what is good to have iMovie HD if you cannot burn a HD disc?

trichardlin, on 20 October 2010 - 10:49 AM, said:

I'll refresh your memory.

It's the most efficient medium by which to get a decent quality video presentation onto a large percentage of computers worldwide. Decent electronic transmission is nothing like universal yet.