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Posted 11 January 2011 - 10:48 AM

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  Posted 11 January 2011 - 10:53 AM

The bottom iPhone is the GSM model, so on the CDMA model the silent switch has been moved *down*, not up as stated in the article.
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 11:02 AM

View PostDanDecker, on 11 January 2011 - 10:53 AM, said:

The bottom iPhone is the GSM model, so on the CDMA model the silent switch has been moved *down*, not up as stated in the article.


Oops, good catch. Fixed.
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  Posted 11 January 2011 - 11:04 AM

So, looks like hearing impaired people still won't be able to use an iPhone -- it's not the carrier, it's Apple's ability to sweet talk the FCC into getting around hearing aid compatibility. Why are no other smart phone manufacturers able to get away with this?
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 11:47 AM

View PostDan Frakes, on 11 January 2011 - 11:02 AM, said:

Oops, good catch. Fixed.

LOL, hey, I'm here to help ;-)
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  Posted 11 January 2011 - 12:09 PM

a little exacto knife useage will fix most cuttable case issues..

PS. In a bit of irony, my local AT&T store had some iPhone 4 cases that leave the silent/volume buttons wide open. These cases would work perfectly on the Verizon phone and only cost $5.
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  Posted 11 January 2011 - 12:16 PM

So...does this mean there really was a problem with the antenna design and that's why it has been altered?
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 12:55 PM

View Postjhmaughan, on 11 January 2011 - 12:16 PM, said:

So...does this mean there really was a problem with the antenna design and that's why it has been altered?


No. The Verizon phone is CDMA which is a different radio and has a different antenna.
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 12:57 PM

View Postjhmaughan, on 11 January 2011 - 12:16 PM, said:

So...does this mean there really was a problem with the antenna design and that's why it has been altered?


No, it probably means only that the antenna requirements for Verizon's CDMA network are different from those for AT&T's GSM network. Note that both models have an antenna gap at the bottom left corner. It is bridging that gap with your hand that triggers signal degradation on the AT&T GSM model. We'll have to wait to see if the same thing happens with the AT&T CDMA model.
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 01:15 PM

View Postbastokyg, on 11 January 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

So, looks like hearing impaired people still won't be able to use an iPhone -- it's not the carrier, it's Apple's ability to sweet talk the FCC into getting around hearing aid compatibility. Why are no other smart phone manufacturers able to get away with this?



The iPhone has ALWAYS been compatible with TTY. What are *you* talking about?
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 06:51 PM

View Postfeold3, on 11 January 2011 - 12:57 PM, said:

View Postjhmaughan, on 11 January 2011 - 12:16 PM, said:

So...does this mean there really was a problem with the antenna design and that's why it has been altered?


No, it probably means only that the antenna requirements for Verizon's CDMA network are different from those for AT&T's GSM network. Note that both models have an antenna gap at the bottom left corner. It is bridging that gap with your hand that triggers signal degradation on the AT&T GSM model. We'll have to wait to see if the same thing happens with the AT&T CDMA model.


(cross posted from another thread)

Both carriers use various frequencies. If every frequency required a different antenna design, there'd need to be over 5 different antennas on the iPhone. So the excuse that the antenna design was to optimize for CDMA is just that...an excuse.

The old design had the two antennas adjacent to each other across one gap, and there was a single non-antenna section of the frame:

antenna:gap:antenna:gap:non-antenna

I'm betting that once the new Verizon iPhone is taken apart, they will find:

antenna:gap:non-antenna:gap:antenna:gap:non-antenna

So instead of only have to bridge one narrow gap between antennas, you'd need to bridge two gaps separated by a large non-antenna section of the frame. If that is what they find when opening up a Verizon iPhone, I'll take it as pretty clear evidence that Apple was intentionally addressing the problem with the original iPhone 4 antenna design.
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Posted 12 January 2011 - 10:42 AM

View PostEricMazzone, on 11 January 2011 - 01:15 PM, said:

View Postbastokyg, on 11 January 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

So, looks like hearing impaired people still won't be able to use an iPhone -- it's not the carrier, it's Apple's ability to sweet talk the FCC into getting around hearing aid compatibility. Why are no other smart phone manufacturers able to get away with this?



The iPhone has ALWAYS been compatible with TTY. What are *you* talking about?


TTY and hearing aid compatible are two completely different things. TTY is a text-based system used mostly by the deaf or those whose hearing loss is too profound to be helped by a hearing aid. Hearing aid compatible is the ability of a phone to interact with most modern hearing aids via a chip called a Telecoil. The FCC mandated that ALL cell phones must have some level of hearing aid compatibility via Telecoil (ratings are T3/M3 and T4/M4 -- the "M" is for microphone, for older aids). Apple iPhones do not have a Telecoil so most of us who wear hearing aids are unable to use them. Some people who have a minor loss, may be able to, but most people with a severe loss cannot.

Even Apple employees in the Apple Stores think TTY is the same as hearing aid compatible. It is not.

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 03:47 AM

View Postbastokyg, on 11 January 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

So, looks like hearing impaired people still won't be able to use an iPhone -- it's not the carrier, it's Apple's ability to sweet talk the FCC into getting around hearing aid compatibility. Why are no other smart phone manufacturers able to get away with this?

Interesting. So are you saying other smart phone manufacturers have to make their phone compatible with hearing aids? That's curious. I wonder why they are able to get a waiver.
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