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Posted 18 January 2011 - 05:48 PM
In Australia, I don't know anyone who wants an iPhone these days except older people who are not so much in the loop of technology. Most everyone I know has switched to Android and those that remain on iPhone are planning to; even those that were die hard fans.
I think it'll be interesting to see iPhone go to Verizon. I don't really know how popular iPhones are in the states, but as far as I can tell, status of owning an iPhone influences the decisions a lot. Apple might be relying on that.
I think it'll be interesting to see iPhone go to Verizon. I don't really know how popular iPhones are in the states, but as far as I can tell, status of owning an iPhone influences the decisions a lot. Apple might be relying on that.
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Posted 18 January 2011 - 06:02 PM
JaredClark, on 18 January 2011 - 05:48 PM, said:
In Australia, I don't know anyone who wants an iPhone these days except older people who are not so much in the loop of technology. Most everyone I know has switched to Android and those that remain on iPhone are planning to; even those that were die hard fans.
I think it'll be interesting to see iPhone go to Verizon. I don't really know how popular iPhones are in the states, but as far as I can tell, status of owning an iPhone influences the decisions a lot. Apple might be relying on that.
I think it'll be interesting to see iPhone go to Verizon. I don't really know how popular iPhones are in the states, but as far as I can tell, status of owning an iPhone influences the decisions a lot. Apple might be relying on that.
People used to say that about the iPod too, but nothing has ever come close to unseating it. The fashion plate argument that Apple products are popular because of the social status is given far too much credence given historical evidence. I've not noticed any trend away from the iPhone among the Australians I know and would be surprised if such a movement were widespread or sustainable as there doesn't seem to be any similar movement anywhere else.
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Posted 18 January 2011 - 07:36 PM
vinnie_A, on 18 January 2011 - 06:32 PM, said:
I'm not too worried about the sales of iPhones based on Australian preferences. After all, these people eat Vegemite... ugh.
That gave me a few chuckles! Thanks.
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Posted 18 January 2011 - 07:39 PM
"we still have a relatively low share of a very large PC market, despite having great momentum there. And so it would seem like there is enormous opportunity still there."
I am very happy to see Apple stating their commitment to the Mac. My only hope is that the success with iOS does not blind Apple to drive the Mac into walled in, dumbed down Mac OS.
I enjoy that Apple is doing well, but my interest is the Mac and Mac OS. And I would love an iPad, if it could run Mac OS software, and not closed ecosystem.
And I suspect there are, many, many more like me. So yes, I think Tim is right when he says "there is enormous opportunity still there"
I am very happy to see Apple stating their commitment to the Mac. My only hope is that the success with iOS does not blind Apple to drive the Mac into walled in, dumbed down Mac OS.
I enjoy that Apple is doing well, but my interest is the Mac and Mac OS. And I would love an iPad, if it could run Mac OS software, and not closed ecosystem.
And I suspect there are, many, many more like me. So yes, I think Tim is right when he says "there is enormous opportunity still there"
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Posted 18 January 2011 - 08:23 PM
JaredClark, on 18 January 2011 - 05:48 PM, said:
In Australia, I don't know anyone who wants an iPhone these days except older people who are not so much in the loop of technology. Most everyone I know has switched to Android and those that remain on iPhone are planning to; even those that were die hard fans.
I think it'll be interesting to see iPhone go to Verizon. I don't really know how popular iPhones are in the states, but as far as I can tell, status of owning an iPhone influences the decisions a lot. Apple might be relying on that.
I think it'll be interesting to see iPhone go to Verizon. I don't really know how popular iPhones are in the states, but as far as I can tell, status of owning an iPhone influences the decisions a lot. Apple might be relying on that.
Maybe the Aborigines, but I don't know about the rest of the population?
Trust me, I'm getting an iPhone on Verizon the moment it's available. Yes, my original Droid is a nice phone, but the truth of the matter is, the iPhone and iOS are both much more polished than Android is.
It's like Linux vs the world all over again. The truth is, the vast majority of people don't care or want to do techie things with their phones like root it, put Cyanogen Mod or another ROM on it, etc. That's a niche market of the global smartphone user base. That is not the vast majority.
iPhone on Verizon is going to blow Android away. I know this Droid/Android user is jumping ship. That's all I've been waiting for is iPhone to come to Verizon. Done deal, man.
M.
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Posted 18 January 2011 - 08:48 PM
JaredClark, on 18 January 2011 - 05:48 PM, said:
In Australia, I don't know anyone who wants an iPhone these days except older people who are not so much in the loop of technology. Most everyone I know has switched to Android and those that remain on iPhone are planning to; even those that were die hard fans.
I live in Australia and want an iPhone 4 (contract with 3GS runs out in June). Couple of my colleagues have also recently got iPhone 4s and one got an Android. So I don't think its as extreme as you make out.
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Posted 18 January 2011 - 10:18 PM
JaredClark, on 18 January 2011 - 05:48 PM, said:
In Australia, I don't know anyone who wants an iPhone these days except older people who are not so much in the loop of technology. Most everyone I know has switched to Android and those that remain on iPhone are planning to; even those that were die hard fans.
I think it'll be interesting to see iPhone go to Verizon. I don't really know how popular iPhones are in the states, but as far as I can tell, status of owning an iPhone influences the decisions a lot. Apple might be relying on that.
I think it'll be interesting to see iPhone go to Verizon. I don't really know how popular iPhones are in the states, but as far as I can tell, status of owning an iPhone influences the decisions a lot. Apple might be relying on that.
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Posted 18 January 2011 - 11:07 PM
What a great interview! Not overly forthcoming with specifics but what an awesome and optimistic view of the near future. Good job Tim. Overall, I'm interested in Mac gaining more and more of the desktop share. Apple is gaining more of this market, but, they are still way out. I think eventually, because of the iOS devices, Apple could continue to outgrow their competitors in this market for years to come until??? Well, who knows, do I dare say the word majority? I won't, but, considering where Apple was when I bought my Performa in 1996, things are looking awfully rosy! Just keep raising the stakes Apple, that's all I ask.
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 12:11 AM
pfax, on 18 January 2011 - 07:39 PM, said:
"we still have a relatively low share of a very large PC market, despite having great momentum there. And so it would seem like there is enormous opportunity still there."
I am very happy to see Apple stating their commitment to the Mac. My only hope is that the success with iOS does not blind Apple to drive the Mac into walled in, dumbed down Mac OS.
I enjoy that Apple is doing well, but my interest is the Mac and Mac OS. And I would love an iPad, if it could run Mac OS software, and not closed ecosystem.
And I suspect there are, many, many more like me. So yes, I think Tim is right when he says "there is enormous opportunity still there"
I am very happy to see Apple stating their commitment to the Mac. My only hope is that the success with iOS does not blind Apple to drive the Mac into walled in, dumbed down Mac OS.
I enjoy that Apple is doing well, but my interest is the Mac and Mac OS. And I would love an iPad, if it could run Mac OS software, and not closed ecosystem.
And I suspect there are, many, many more like me. So yes, I think Tim is right when he says "there is enormous opportunity still there"
Mac OS has no place at all on an iPad. Mac OS is designed to be used with a mouse and a keyboard. Also, Mac OS is not made for ARM technology, so it cannot use the A4 processor. Currently, Mac OS can only use Intel processors. Either Apple has to make Mac OS ARM-compatible or Intel has to come out with a solution for mobile devices.
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 12:17 AM
JaredClark, on 18 January 2011 - 05:48 PM, said:
In Australia, I don't know anyone who wants an iPhone these days except older people who are not so much in the loop of technology. Most everyone I know has switched to Android and those that remain on iPhone are planning to; even those that were die hard fans.
I think it'll be interesting to see iPhone go to Verizon. I don't really know how popular iPhones are in the states, but as far as I can tell, status of owning an iPhone influences the decisions a lot. Apple might be relying on that.
I think it'll be interesting to see iPhone go to Verizon. I don't really know how popular iPhones are in the states, but as far as I can tell, status of owning an iPhone influences the decisions a lot. Apple might be relying on that.
Mate, I don't know where you live, but I see iPhones everywhere in Melbourne. I got my iPhone 4 within the first couple of weeks of them being available and barely saw any for ages. But now? Ten a penny. It's rare that I see a smart phone that isn't an iPhone or a Blackberry. In my experience, you're just plain wrong.
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 02:42 AM
thevupster777, on 19 January 2011 - 12:11 AM, said:
Also, Mac OS is not made for ARM technology, so it cannot use the A4 processor. Currently, Mac OS can only use Intel processors.
Actually, thanks to the work Apple did on Mac OS X that enabled the switch from PowerPC to Intel, I'd expect it would now be pretty straightforward to recompile the OS for another processor if they wanted to do it - it wouldn't even surprise me if they had OS X running on ARM in a back room somewhere, like they did on Intel processors from the early days of OS X. I agree that Apple are highly unlikely to put Mac OS on a tablet any time soon, though; they don't think that a desktop OS works well in a keyboardless, touch-screen form factor, and I agree. Looking at the spectacular success of Windows tablets, so does the market ;-)
This post has been edited by nekomatic: 19 January 2011 - 02:44 AM
