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[brobdingnagian]

He removes the critical comments from his FaceBook page because he has friends at Apple. This reveals a lot about his conflict of interest.

[Chris Breen]

brobdingnagian, on 29 June 2011 - 07:32 AM, said:

He removes the critical comments from his FaceBook page because he has friends at Apple. This reveals a lot about his conflict of interest.

Did he say that? Seems to me this comment reveals more about you.

We're talking about a very small world of people who work at Gary's level. Of course he knows people at Apple on the Final Cut team. Knowing them is part of his job. To make the leap that because he knows and likes people at various companies involved in his business he has a clear conflict of interest shows very little insight into how people live their professional lives.

[BradJordanxc3u]

Actually, I've seen some of the comments of some so called "pro" editors on some of the sites about FCP-X. "Pro" may refer to their talent editing and producing video/film, but it certainly doesn't refer to their tact and ability to be considerate and civil. So, I wouldn't blame him for taking off some comments. I'm sure if they are simply critical without some of the patronizing, sometimes nasty tone, he'd keep them up. Just my thoughts.

[Chris Breen]

BradJordanxc3u, on 29 June 2011 - 08:13 AM, said:

Actually, I've seen some of the comments of some so called "pro" editors on some of the sites about FCP-X. "Pro" may refer to their talent editing and producing video/film, but it certainly doesn't refer to their tact and ability to be considerate and civil. So, I wouldn't blame him for taking off some comments. I'm sure if they are simply critical without some of the patronizing, sometimes nasty tone, he'd keep them up. Just my thoughts.

It's a subject that people in the industry are passionate about. Jason Snell and I had a lively Twitter debate about FCPX the other day, and we're not even video editors. Still, you can be passionate and persuasive without being nasty. As Gary says in the podcast, he received 30,000 emails following his review of Final Cut here and a couple of articles on Creative Cow. Some of those message were not nearly as polite as they might have been--just as some posts on his Facebook wall were nothing more than personal attacks. No one should have to put up with that.

[BradJordanxc3u]

Exactly. The Pro editors are extremely justified in their anger but one can be angry and passionate while not acting like a child. :-)

[garyadcock]

brobdingnagian, on 29 June 2011 - 07:32 AM, said:

He removes the critical comments from his FaceBook page because he has friends at Apple. This reveals a lot about his conflict of interest.

My disclosure is public in the Cow forums. Where is yours?

and this is my real name.


gary adcock

[ZombieReagan]

What Gary said in the podcast (at the 36-min mark): "I keep trying to take the negative comments off my Facebook page because it's just one of those things, that there's a lot of my friends who work at Apple are on their, and I'm not gonna take the bashing."

Gary must understand that it doesn't matter what anyone's name is if they make valid points -- here or anywhere else on the internet. To dwell on someone's name is to purposefully ignore the point being made, and to try to make it about THEM. And it's not.

Gary does not deny here that he deletes critical comments. He admits that for the sake of his friends at Apple he is trying to spare them embarrassment (or whatever). These are his words, they are not in dispute.

Chris seems to question any "conflict of interest" but to these ears that certainly remains a possible explanation. Of course in the midst of a discussion people can always be less than complete in their answers, but Gary's sidestep defensiveness in the comments here make me wonder....

[Chris Breen]

ZombieReagan, on 29 June 2011 - 11:06 AM, said:

What Gary said in the podcast (at the 36-min mark): "I keep trying to take the negative comments off my Facebook page because it's just one of those things, that there's a lot of my friends who work at Apple are on their, and I'm not gonna take the bashing."

I listened again to the entire section rather than just this excerpt and it sounded like a a non-sequiter to me. The overall sense I get of it was that everyone needs to chill and he wasn't going to put up with angry personal remarks. As someone who routinely deletes similar remarks--not because I'm trying to defend any particular person, company, or view but because I think people can find other places to be jerks--I'm sympathetic to his view. But Gary's monitoring this thread and he can speak for himself.

As for his "defensiveness," no one likes being accused of being on the take.

[Conrail]

The problems with FCP X do not represent failings of the programming team or designers, but either a change of focus or a failure to understand the product by upper management. No one on the FCP team would "forget" to add chapter markers or XML support. Someone at a higher level made a conscious decision for the software to do this, this and this, but not that or that.

What FCP X does, it does very well.

[garyadcock]

I have removed one post from my FB page under an FCPX thread because it was a rude commentary directed at another person under my name.

Geez. No one has ever removed a post that they found distasteful? It is my personal FB page and I did it because I do not think anyone should fill a facebook comments area with vitriolic commentary regarding someone that is not me.

Yes I have a number of friends at Apple, I have many more that do not work at Apple and I will not allow anyone to be verbally abused if I can put a stop to it.

What respect would I deserve if I did not standup for anyone being attacked or abused.

We are not talking about deleting comments in any open public forum, but in a semi-private forum that I use to share personal items with my friends and family.

gary

[Biallystock]

I am wondering if any of those video editors, who are (rightly) getting hot under the collar about the dumbing down and disabling of pro functions in FCPX, were amongst those who disparaged the print designers who were similarly affronted over Apple's crippling of their production tools?

If there were, then poetic justice will soon be dealt, because Apple has ignored the print designers and likely will do SFA for the video editors, because when Apple chooses between the hordes of inexperienced amateurs and the few professionals, their eyes glaze over with dollar signs.

Still loud voices in Hollywood may get more milage than the hard working backroom boys in print, because those tasty little product placements in videos, may suddenly vanish if Apple doesn't do something to appease them.