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What's new in Lion: QuickTime and Preview

#1 User is offline   Macworld 

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 05:01 AM

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  Posted 21 July 2011 - 05:31 AM

The new version of Quicktime player has deprecrated functionality when it comes to full-screen viewing. I like to watch tutorials in full-screen on QuickTime player, while working on my main monitor. This is no longer possible with QT Player on 10.7. It commands the main screen and blacks out the secondary screen in full-screen mode. It's not a deal breaker, but that's weak.
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  Posted 21 July 2011 - 07:36 AM

Does Lion remove any installation of Quicktime 7?
I currently have Quicktime 7 Pro installed with Snow Leopard and am wondering if it will carry over into Lion.
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  Posted 21 July 2011 - 07:41 AM

Happily, a horrible bug in Preview which tended to skew the Table of Contents off by a page after adding an annotation (and saving) was resolved. HUZZAH!
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 09:08 AM

View Postynott, on 21 July 2011 - 07:36 AM, said:

Does Lion remove any installation of Quicktime 7?
I currently have Quicktime 7 Pro installed with Snow Leopard and am wondering if it will carry over into Lion.


My question is whether QTP7 is compatible with Lion. I need every feature it has (as well as some of the features that were taken out a couple of years back).

Apple has a penchant for french desserts at the expense of meat and potatoes. This may please a large niche within the user community, but it makes life difficult for others. For example, the change from iMovie HD to '08 was well received by 20% of potential users but the other 80% (including hundreds of schools and thousands of school kids) couldn't make sense of it. It was visually cluttered, way too cerebral and hard to figure out without the documentation. FCP X hits the same numbers, but with the 80% being pros whose incomes depend on critically important features that were MIA.

It would be really nice if Apple would take a break from the heady thin air of the heights of Mount Olympus and make a routine practice of accurate, balanced field studies among us mortals.
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 09:57 AM

View PostJohn, on 21 July 2011 - 09:08 AM, said:

View Postynott, on 21 July 2011 - 07:36 AM, said:

Does Lion remove any installation of Quicktime 7?
I currently have Quicktime 7 Pro installed with Snow Leopard and am wondering if it will carry over into Lion.


My question is whether QTP7 is compatible with Lion. I need every feature it has (as well as some of the features that were taken out a couple of years back).

Apple has a penchant for french desserts at the expense of meat and potatoes. This may please a large niche within the user community, but it makes life difficult for others. For example, the change from iMovie HD to '08 was well received by 20% of potential users but the other 80% (including hundreds of schools and thousands of school kids) couldn't make sense of it. It was visually cluttered, way too cerebral and hard to figure out without the documentation. FCP X hits the same numbers, but with the 80% being pros whose incomes depend on critically important features that were MIA.

It would be really nice if Apple would take a break from the heady thin air of the heights of Mount Olympus and make a routine practice of accurate, balanced field studies among us mortals.

QuickTime 7 Pro was migrated into the Utilities folder of my 10.7 drive, and all Pro functionality appears to be present.
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  Posted 21 July 2011 - 01:56 PM

QuickTime 7 Pro is still hard to beat. Like how many of you really use Quicktime X in Snow Leopard? Seriously. Fail on Apple's part.

VLC Player has obviously taken over many of our Macs video duties, with the young upstart "MOVIST" coming up through the ranks very quickly to try to take back the truly Apple-esque Quicktime 7 Pro crown within the VLC-dominated market. The one to watch.
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  Posted 21 July 2011 - 05:16 PM

Quicktime 7 Pro is NOT an option on Lion. Sadly. It's the only program I lost. And I agree with many others. The included Quicktime player isn't nearly as good. Hopefully there will be a fix.
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 05:24 PM

View PostVersaillian, on 21 July 2011 - 05:16 PM, said:

Quicktime 7 Pro is NOT an option on Lion. Sadly. It's the only program I lost. And I agree with many others. The included Quicktime player isn't nearly as good. Hopefully there will be a fix.


I've tested QuickTime 7 with Lion and it works just fine.

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 06:34 PM

View PostJohn, on 21 July 2011 - 09:08 AM, said:

It would be really nice if Apple would take a break from the heady thin air of the heights of Mount Olympus and make a routine practice of accurate, balanced field studies among us mortals.


to extend the overuse of metaphor, you can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.

If you wan't homogenized consistency you have there rest of the entire industry. What makes Apple unique is their willingness to push boundaries and make changes they feel necessary irrespective of what criticism they may receive.

Just like with iMovie, already much of the furor over Final Cut Pro X is finally dying down. Once reasonable people get past their initial hysteria, they realize the world isn't ending and that heck, their might be something to the new program after all! For all the hand waving hysteria, there is an equal amount of well-reasoned people pointing out that in the long haul Apple has a history of winning out - and benefiting the rest of us for that in the long run.

I have no doubt in a couple of years, the same will happen with Final Cut Pro X. Yup, there will be a certain percentage of people who will never except it - oh well! Just like the matte display fanatics they are in the minority - don't expect support from Apple - move on to one of the many alternatives. Meanwhile, Final Cut Pro X is a much greater and accessible tool for me than FCS. And in looking at further in-depth reviews, it is apparent that Apple has laid and extensive foundation for third party support for many of the tape and import/export features considered "Pro".

But just like the laserwriter changed the landscape for typography and democratized publishing, we are on the cusp for the same thing for video with FCP X. If you have a digital SLR that takes video, FCP X is where you should be looking right now!
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  Posted 21 July 2011 - 08:56 PM

Having reported, it seems hundreds of times, the increasing amount of restrictions placed on converted pdfs in Preview, along with the associated bugs, I have learnt my lesson.

Apple doesn't want to know. Shame, with a few tweaks Preview could be a massively useful app. Just like TextEdit. All the features are there in OSX Core so surely it can't be that hard to get the hooks working in the GUI.
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  Posted 22 July 2011 - 07:09 AM

My thanks to those at Apple who develop Preview. With every major upgrade, I find they're the ones who've added the most useful features, even though they get little of the attention.

One request. As ePub gets more popular, we need a good reaader for unencryped ePubs. Digital Editions is a pain to use and the others are limited in features.
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Posted 23 July 2011 - 07:39 PM

View PostChris Breen, on 21 July 2011 - 05:24 PM, said:

View PostVersaillian, on 21 July 2011 - 05:16 PM, said:

Quicktime 7 Pro is NOT an option on Lion. Sadly. It's the only program I lost. And I agree with many others. The included Quicktime player isn't nearly as good. Hopefully there will be a fix.


I've tested QuickTime 7 with Lion and it works just fine.


I cannot find my copy of QT 7 after upgrading to Lion. It is not in Applications or Utilities. I downloaded it again from Apple's site, it is called QuickTime for Leopard 7.6.9) and it won't install on this system (says Quicktime X is already present). I thought perhaps if it didn't see QT X it might allow the installation to continue. I copied QT X to my desktop, but the system would not allow me to delete QT X (says it is needed for the system).

Isn't QT 7 QT Pro after entering the unlock keys, or am I missing something?

This post has been edited by artMonster: 23 July 2011 - 07:43 PM

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Posted 24 July 2011 - 11:16 AM

View PostartMonster, on 23 July 2011 - 07:39 PM, said:

View PostChris Breen, on 21 July 2011 - 05:24 PM, said:

View PostVersaillian, on 21 July 2011 - 05:16 PM, said:

Quicktime 7 Pro is NOT an option on Lion. Sadly. It's the only program I lost. And I agree with many others. The included Quicktime player isn't nearly as good. Hopefully there will be a fix.


I've tested QuickTime 7 with Lion and it works just fine.


I cannot find my copy of QT 7 after upgrading to Lion. It is not in Applications or Utilities. I downloaded it again from Apple's site, it is called QuickTime for Leopard 7.6.9) and it won't install on this system (says Quicktime X is already present). I thought perhaps if it didn't see QT X it might allow the installation to continue. I copied QT X to my desktop, but the system would not allow me to delete QT X (says it is needed for the system).

Isn't QT 7 QT Pro after entering the unlock keys, or am I missing something?


Never mind. This solved it: http://support.apple.com/kb/dl923
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