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Review: Apple Mail 5.0

#1 User is offline   Macworld 

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Posted 27 July 2011 - 11:01 AM

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#2 User is offline   JMHammer 

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  Posted 27 July 2011 - 11:09 AM

Only my Mac.com account is producing an unread count in the Dock icon. When my other accounts get new unread mail, Mail generates the "new message" sound but does not represent those new messages as part of the total count of unread messages.
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  Posted 27 July 2011 - 11:32 AM

I miss the bounce to sender feature. Please bring it back.

Bring back the Bounce to Sender feature, please.
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#4 User is offline   Chris Breen 

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Posted 27 July 2011 - 11:36 AM

View Postrtye, on 27 July 2011 - 11:32 AM, said:

I miss the bounce to sender feature. Please bring it back.

Bring back the Bounce to Sender feature, please.


That feature was almost entirely useless. If you used it to reply to spam, you were either bouncing to a dead address or worse, replying to some poor shmoe who had their email addressed spoofed by the spammer or phisher.

The only use I can think of for it is to try to throw off an ex-boyfriend or girlfriend or collection agency when you wanted them to think that an email address was no longer valid.

#5 User is offline   Claude Mathis 

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Posted 27 July 2011 - 11:39 AM

View PostChris Breen, on 27 July 2011 - 11:36 AM, said:

View Postrtye, on 27 July 2011 - 11:32 AM, said:

I miss the bounce to sender feature. Please bring it back.

Bring back the Bounce to Sender feature, please.


That feature was almost entirely useless. If you used it to reply to spam, you were either bouncing to a dead address or worse, replying to some poor shmoe who had their email addressed spoofed by the spammer or phisher.

The only use I can think of for it is to try to throw off an ex-boyfriend or girlfriend or collection agency when you wanted them to think that an email address was no longer valid.

And even then, if they looked at the header, they could see who it really came from.
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#6 User is offline   megatrick 

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  Posted 27 July 2011 - 11:44 AM

I completely disagree with the conclusion that "Power users with industrial-strength business needs will almost surely prefer Outlook’s sophisticated, integrated approach to calendars, contacts, and day-planning reminders."

By using Apple Mail, you get full integration with Apple's excellent Contacts and Calendar apps. And guess what, they actually sync up with your devices through Mobile Me. OUTLOOK 2011 can't sync calendars with MobileMe. That's a deal breaker for professional users.

Additionally, I found Outlook too slow, and left it after ten years of Entourage/Outlook for Apple Mail. Apple Mail blazes with speed and responsiveness; Outlook gets in my way even on the fastest of machines.
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  Posted 27 July 2011 - 11:50 AM

These new features may, theoretically, be in other mail clients already, but what distinguishes Mail is that it "just works": no bugs, no weird behavior, no glitchiness like you get in Outlook and other programs. I'm managing some 10,000 messages in Mail, and it has been rock-solid stable since I began using it some seven or eight years ago. And as always, the transition to Lion went without a hitch.

I'm not sure how many Mac users will consider the widescreen support an advantage, though, since the vast majority of us are now using laptops.
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  Posted 27 July 2011 - 11:56 AM

To me, Mail 5.0 ist the best of Lion’s features. New interface, customization options, flagging, wonderful searching. I use several plugins, e.g. GrowlMail and especially MailActOn. I consider myself a "power user" and I really happy with the new Mail.app. Of course only with all the rules I created ;-)
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  Posted 27 July 2011 - 12:11 PM

No mention of filtering changes. Filtering of outgoing messages is one (big) reason I use PowerMail.

I rely on being able to filter outgoing messages so that messages I send to clients get moved to their respective mail boxes. I know I could go to the sent mail folder and drag the email I just sent into the folder, but c'mon...
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  Posted 27 July 2011 - 12:15 PM

Unfortunately, the search function is seriously flawed in the new Mail. For example, you cannot search both an Exchange account and "On My Mac" simultaneously. In Snow Leopard's search, when you searched "all mailboxes", the search was made into all accounts; the Exchange account, a Google account, and On My Mac. Apparently, that is not the case in the new Mail app. My colleague and I have been attempting to do this search all afternoon without success. Are we missing something in a Preferences file, etc?
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  Posted 27 July 2011 - 12:22 PM

I put it back to look like the classic look in the mail preferences and turned off organize by thread. Perhaps I am alone, but I didn't care for any of Lions improvements except that it seems a bit faster. Safari is still a terrible browser that hangs on so many web pages it is ridiculous.
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#12 User is offline   Dan Frakes 

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Posted 27 July 2011 - 01:09 PM

View Postspinoza2, on 27 July 2011 - 11:50 AM, said:

I'm not sure how many Mac users will consider the widescreen support an advantage, though, since the vast majority of us are now using laptops.


But all of Apple's laptops use widescreen displays. (I find that the 11-inch MacBook Air I'm using is the computer on which I most appreciate the new layout.)
Dan Frakes / Senior Editor, Macworld

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  Posted 27 July 2011 - 01:26 PM

the wide screen lines of the new mail makes it very hard to read (for me) as my eye sight is not good
why please make the lines of type that i can reduce the lines to a readable length for me
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  Posted 27 July 2011 - 01:43 PM

If Apple would add just one feature to Mail it would keep me from having to go back to (ugh) Microsoft for my mail client: nested smart mailboxes. I deal with hundreds of companies, each with up to a dozen people to transact with over a half dozen projects per company. The email volume is astronomical, and the only way to stay on top of it is to use a nested filing system. The last time I checked, Mail can only do nested filing manually, as the smart mailboxes only work to one level. Conversation threads and improved search provide some relief, but they still can’t come close to replacing my needs for multi-level automated filing. Apple, please do something here.
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