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I use Chrome for much of my stuff. FireFox is still my default browser. Safari is used mainly on our iPad. I go through periods of time where I use Safari. I had used it for a while. Now I'm down to no use on the Mac.

I downloaded the upgrade for Mac OS 10.8 combo update many times to give some example speeds of these 3 browsers. Safari won followed by Firefox & then Chrome. Because these were unscientific trials they give little real info.

An example of this is during the probably 10 downloads of Lion to my system the times varied by over 100%. Some of my best times was the first one. That is the only one that I know had no prior info to speed or slow it up. One download took well over twice its time of about 35 minutes. I've spent so many hours doing downloads that I am surprised that my isp did not ask what was going on. I'm not sure that this is the way I want to go in the future. I should be able to limit it to Apple only. I have always tried to download the combo update once,, save it to my long term program storage area, use it to make all of my updates on all of my different Mac systems. If I have to build a new boot partition from scratch I can start with my DVD & then apply one update to make it current. It sounds like Apple is following Microsoft with its incremental updates. In one of my Mac OS makings the past week or so I had to reenter my Serial number for Excel 2011. Then I had to go through many incremental updates as MS does not offer a combo update. How will Apple handle this if all they do with updates now are incremental ones. Will I have to waste an additional hour or so per computer doing these incremental things. I hope not.

The way Apple acts now, to me much more Microsoft like, may mean that MS & Apple has spent too much time copying each other. Apple has always dictated, buy now it feels more like a MS style of dictating.

I do not understand how Apple can get by with having Safari pre-installed on the Mac while MS can not do the same thing. If Safari had to handled the same way IE with Windows is then its numbers would probably be down.

I believe that everyone should give many browsers a try to see which one or probably ones work the best for them. For certain things I like different ones. I used Flock for awhile but the way it handled searches did not lend itself to my type of browser use so I usually do not use it any more. This may have been the opinion of enough others as its development has been stopped. I try not to use IE when I am running windows as it doesn't get along well with my Windows XP system on my Mac. So I don't even notice my other dislikes of it.

I'm one of those users that Microsoft grumbles about, because I still have XP as the secondary OS on both of my machines (obviously with Mac OS X as the primary OS) -- but I only ever use IE to hit the Windows Update website; any other (infrequent) web browsing under Windows takes place in the Windows version of Safari.

Maybe one day, I'll bite the bullet and downgrade them both to Windows 7...

This post has been edited by zarmanto: 01 August 2011 - 12:13 PM

heisetax, on 01 August 2011 - 11:50 AM, said:

This is an extremely poor test as all you're testing is each browser's sustained single HTTP download capability. Browser speed involves downloading all the various elements of a webpage and displaying them (which is far more complex than a big download). You might as well use curl or wget if you care about strict http download speed.

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No idea where this idea is coming from. I've seen nothing suggesting Apple is moving to that model for the OS.

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Because the lawsuit was about far more than simple bundling. Although it doesn't catch all the nuance, the summary from Wikipedia does give decent flavor.

The issue central to the case was whether Microsoft was allowed to bundle its flagship Internet Explorer (IE) web browser software with its Microsoft Windows operating system. Bundling them together is alleged to have been responsible for Microsoft's victory in the browser wars as every Windows user had a copy of Internet Explorer. It was further alleged that this restricted the market for competing web browsers (such as Netscape Navigator or Opera) that were slow to download over a modem or had to be purchased at a store. Underlying these disputes were questions over whether Microsoft altered or manipulated its application programming interfaces (APIs) to favor Internet Explorer over third party web browsers, Microsoft's conduct in forming restrictive licensing agreements with original equipment manufacturer (OEMs), and Microsoft's intent in its course of conduct.

Apple and Safari are in quite a different situation. I think we'd be much more likely to see a lawsuit over Safari on iOS first.

heisetax, on 01 August 2011 - 11:50 AM, said:

I think. The difference is that Apple produces its own hardware and there is no 3rd party to it.