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#1 User is offline   Macworld 

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 05:31 AM

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  Posted 02 September 2011 - 06:23 AM

Are you sure this has MLB.TV? I've seen this added to several reviews, but the Roku site does not list them anywhere as a partner. Can someone confirm?
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Posted 02 September 2011 - 06:44 AM

View Postphatkrome, on 02 September 2011 - 06:23 AM, said:

Are you sure this has MLB.TV? I've seen this added to several reviews, but the Roku site does not list them anywhere as a partner. Can someone confirm?
http://mlb.mlb.com/m...ons/devices.jsp
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Posted 02 September 2011 - 06:47 AM

View Postphatkrome, on 02 September 2011 - 06:23 AM, said:

Are you sure this has MLB.TV? I've seen this added to several reviews, but the Roku site does not list them anywhere as a partner. Can someone confirm?


You have to go to the mlb website to activate mlb.tv on your Roku device

http://mlb.mlb.com/m...sp?product=roku
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#5 User is offline   Jason Snell 

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  Posted 02 September 2011 - 06:48 AM

I have been watching baseball games on my Roku Player for ages. And the new ones, yesterday.

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  Posted 02 September 2011 - 07:10 AM

What's huge for me with Apple TV is that I can stream ANY video on my computer via my iPhone or iPad using Air Video with the exception of movies that I've purchased from iTunes. Whenever I see reviews of the Apple TV, this feature is always overlooked.
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  Posted 02 September 2011 - 07:27 AM

Can someone say lawsuit? Apple is going to have a field day with this hardware design...
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  Posted 02 September 2011 - 08:14 AM

Hearing the Roku 2 XS uses a bluetooth controller made me a little wary. I just checked the specs on the Roku site, and the box still does support IR, so it works with universal remote controls. That's good.

I'm surprised jsnell didn't reiterate in the conclusion how important AirPlay has become in the Apple ecosystem. The Apple TV isn't just for people who have purchased iTunes videos. With any iOS device, the content you can play on your Apple TV becomes almost limitless. Including Hulu Plus. (Just this week Hulu updated their app to support display mirroring. Combine that with iOS 5 in about a month, and you have Hulu on the Apple TV!)

One more advantage the Apple TV has is network streaming from your PC/Mac. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Roku doesn't support this feature. It's super simple on the Apple TV. You can add any movie, tv show, music, podcast, etc to your iTunes library and it's available on the Apple TV. It will even play photos. Our family uses this feature all the time, and are moving away from DVDs all together.

There are also many apps on iOS (like Plex and Air Video) that allow you to stream video in ANY format to iOS or your Apple TV. I used this for watching divx and other video formats on my TV. Works great!
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Posted 02 September 2011 - 08:24 AM

View PostJason Snell, on 02 September 2011 - 06:48 AM, said:

I have been watching baseball games on my Roku Player for ages. And the new ones, yesterday.


Thanks for the confirmation!

This post has been edited by phatkrome: 02 September 2011 - 08:25 AM

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#10 User is offline   Jason Snell 

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  Posted 02 September 2011 - 08:33 AM

Basically, the Roku boxes are great if all you want to do is stick Amazon video or Netflix or MLB on a TV. That is where they excel. If you want to use AirPlay or play back iTunes videos or anything like that, Apple TV has the edge.

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  Posted 02 September 2011 - 09:15 AM

We have an Apple TV 2 and the whole family uses it to share videos from our Macs and iOS devices, while the kids watch Dr. Who on Netflix.

Sometimes I wish it had Hulu, but then I remember that I have no time to watch TV anyway. Game over!
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  Posted 02 September 2011 - 09:42 AM

I have an older Roku Box, other than games, is there any reason to upgrade to a newer one?
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  Posted 02 September 2011 - 09:49 AM

I've had a Roku player for a couple of years, and it's one of a small number of devices I've owned that does what it claimed to do, right out of the box, at a small price, and well.

I switched to the AppleTV 2, and in most regards it does things just as well...except Netflix. My Apple TV just does not stream Netflix well at all: constant buffering (with the screen image frozen while the buffering is going on). This problem seems to be wide-spread enough to garner lots of support posts, so it's not just me.

(Note that the ATV does just fine for me on other kinds of content, this is an Apple-Netflix issue only. There is a suggested fix involving hardcoding your DNS server in the ATV settings; this fix seems to help some people but not others, and I'm in the latter group. As wonderful as the Roku has been, I would love to reduce my device count by one, and I would love to be able to use Remote on my iPhone to control Netflix interaction. :( )

Meanwhile my first generation Roku does Netflix faster than anything else we have that also does it: ATV, blu-ray player or Wii.
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  Posted 02 September 2011 - 10:36 AM

I'm using the first Roku XR. It has a big advantage over the Roku 2 in that it has a DAC (digital audio converter) built in and RCA left and right audio jacks out. For people who are fine with two speakers for a TV and already have a fine but pre HDMI receiver or amp, the original is good. Replacing it with a Roku 2 means they will either have to spend hundreds or thousands on a new HDMI receiver or Amp (even if they don't want surround) or; buy a separate DAC to take the HDMI or Toslink and convert it to RCA analog out. DACs range in price from $25 to $3000 dollars (I found that the FiiO DAC http://goo.gl/kuXD3 is much cheaper than the Geffen.
This is how Apple and Roku have made their new small boxes so cheap. Neither have a DAC built in!

Also, there are new features offered by the extra button on the newer remotes that will work on the old Roku. But Roku has no trade in your old remote for a new one program or even a web site way to an account that can do some of the features like rearrange positions of services - which I really want to do!

Having said all that, Roku has much more to offer than Apple TV 2. I have both and mainly got the Apple TV 2 (refurb) cheap so I could access my iTunes music on screen with my high end stereo speakers. Roku also has private channels. Yes, there is paid porn but there is free CNN (International version), the BBC, ESPN 3, and other live and recorded options. Mostly free but some paid. Google Roku private channels to find web sites that list them and codes to access.

BTW: There are ways to listen to iTunes on the Roku via other channels. The main company that did it, did a terrible job and, sure enough, they are now out of business. But I recently noticed others getting in on it. There is even a way to access a home server on a Roku. But it was all still pretty geeky. I'm too lazy.

Apple needs to start Apple TV 2 apps for real and open it up. Many of the apps on iPhone/Pad could transfer right over with some tweaking to Apple TV 2. There are also things specific to the home, like recipes, health, news, etc. that could work great if Apple let anyone develop apps for Apple TV 2.

Roku calls apps Channels. Apple calls channels Apps. I am looking forward to that Apple TV TV!
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