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Puck n mac 
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Posted 08 September 2011 - 11:02 AM
I have the same problem with Snow Leopard and in Firefox. While using Google Maps it will randomly zoom in or zoom out without me touching the top of the Magic Mouse at all.
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Posted 08 September 2011 - 11:20 AM
I think this is why the magic mouse uses batteries so fast. It seems that some apps are more sensitive than others to unintentional gestures. But I doubt that means the mouse stops tracking the unintentional feather touches in other apps.
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Posted 08 September 2011 - 11:37 AM
I picked up a new Mac Mini at an Apple retail store a couple weeks ago and the employee helping me recommended I buy a Magic Mouse, "what with all of Lion's great gesture feature updates" to which I replied, "Dammit! This thing comes with Lion already installed?!?"
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Posted 08 September 2011 - 11:53 AM
I find myself accidentally scrolling a lot when I am working with InDesign documents. But, scrolling is very important, so I don't want to turn it off completely. I just wish I knew what I was doing that sometimes triggers scrolling, or there was a way to adjust the sensitivity, or perhaps it could know not to scroll when the mouse is moving. That seems to be the problem most of the time. I intend to just move the pointer, but it scrolls too.
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Posted 08 September 2011 - 12:01 PM
Puck n mac, on 08 September 2011 - 11:02 AM, said:
I have the same problem with Snow Leopard and in Firefox. While using Google Maps it will randomly zoom in or zoom out without me touching the top of the Magic Mouse at all.
I think that the Google maps behavior is unrelated to Mac OS gestures. I have the same issue at work using Firefox on a PC on Win XP with an old-fashioned scroll-wheel mouse and on my MacBook Pro running SL at home. The problem is that on Google maps, scrolling with a mouse or trackpad is interpreted as a zoom command. To actually move the focus of the map up or down, I'm trying to train myself to either use the navigation arrows in the left corner of the map window, or to move the map by dragging the image up or down, much as I'm used to doing with some PDFs. But scrolling is intuitive in every other browser window and always results in unintended zooming in or out of these maps.
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giulio
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Posted 08 September 2011 - 12:56 PM
iBookinLA, on 08 September 2011 - 12:01 PM, said:
Puck n mac, on 08 September 2011 - 11:02 AM, said:
I have the same problem with Snow Leopard and in Firefox. While using Google Maps it will randomly zoom in or zoom out without me touching the top of the Magic Mouse at all.
I think that the Google maps behavior is unrelated to Mac OS gestures. I have the same issue at work using Firefox on a PC on Win XP with an old-fashioned scroll-wheel mouse and on my MacBook Pro running SL at home. The problem is that on Google maps, scrolling with a mouse or trackpad is interpreted as a zoom command. To actually move the focus of the map up or down, I'm trying to train myself to either use the navigation arrows in the left corner of the map window, or to move the map by dragging the image up or down, much as I'm used to doing with some PDFs. But scrolling is intuitive in every other browser window and always results in unintended zooming in or out of these maps.
Actually that's an issue with how JavaScript interprets scroll input. It's a mess. "For instance, a value of 3 from Firefox or Opera in detail is equal to a value of 120 in wheelDelta for Internet Explorer or Safari." http://www.switchont...he-scroll-wheel
So, not really "gestures"... but definitely how it interprets the scroll input. My guess is that most other programs don't pay attention to very small scroll values. Which leads to my other guess that the mouse pays attention (and sends) the very low inputs constantly, draining the battery quickly.
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Posted 08 September 2011 - 01:07 PM
iBookinLA, on 08 September 2011 - 12:01 PM, said:
Puck n mac, on 08 September 2011 - 11:02 AM, said:
I have the same problem with Snow Leopard and in Firefox. While using Google Maps it will randomly zoom in or zoom out without me touching the top of the Magic Mouse at all.
I think that the Google maps behavior is unrelated to Mac OS gestures. I have the same issue at work using Firefox on a PC on Win XP with an old-fashioned scroll-wheel mouse and on my MacBook Pro running SL at home. The problem is that on Google maps, scrolling with a mouse or trackpad is interpreted as a zoom command. To actually move the focus of the map up or down, I'm trying to train myself to either use the navigation arrows in the left corner of the map window, or to move the map by dragging the image up or down, much as I'm used to doing with some PDFs. But scrolling is intuitive in every other browser window and always results in unintended zooming in or out of these maps.
Clearly, Google Maps is the exception with its PITA zooming behavior. With Google Maps, you must train yourself to keep away from any zooming control on any device, with any OS, in any browser. What is Google thinking?
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Posted 08 September 2011 - 01:14 PM
Some of the gesture “problems” can be fixed with a bit of effort by the user on the learning curve. That effort is time very very well spent.
When working with multiple windows and multiple apps, the ideal setup is a desktop Mac with large, multiple monitors and a multi-button programmable mouse. But I am awed by how much Lion’s ingenious implementation of a superb trackpad has enabled the 11” Air to deal with limited screen real estate.
When working with multiple windows and multiple apps, the ideal setup is a desktop Mac with large, multiple monitors and a multi-button programmable mouse. But I am awed by how much Lion’s ingenious implementation of a superb trackpad has enabled the 11” Air to deal with limited screen real estate.
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Posted 08 September 2011 - 04:09 PM
I think Apple's developing Lion, in part from its successes with iOS, is proving to be in some cases "casting pearls before swine."
I personally LOVE my Magic Trackpad and Lion on my iMac. Love the full screen Apple apps. Love the 2-finger swipe page flipping. Love the 4-finger app swipe/Mission Control vertical swipe, etc.
I think Lion is going to mean a lot to Apple's continued success in selling more Macs to switchers who come to the brand because of being pleased with iOS products.
I personally LOVE my Magic Trackpad and Lion on my iMac. Love the full screen Apple apps. Love the 2-finger swipe page flipping. Love the 4-finger app swipe/Mission Control vertical swipe, etc.
I think Lion is going to mean a lot to Apple's continued success in selling more Macs to switchers who come to the brand because of being pleased with iOS products.
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Posted 08 September 2011 - 04:35 PM
Danielsw, on 08 September 2011 - 04:09 PM, said:
I think Apple's developing Lion, in part from its successes with iOS, is proving to be in some cases "casting pearls before swine."
I personally LOVE my Magic Trackpad and Lion on my iMac. Love the full screen Apple apps. Love the 2-finger swipe page flipping. Love the 4-finger app swipe/Mission Control vertical swipe, etc.
I think Lion is going to mean a lot to Apple's continued success in selling more Macs to switchers who come to the brand because of being pleased with iOS products.
I personally LOVE my Magic Trackpad and Lion on my iMac. Love the full screen Apple apps. Love the 2-finger swipe page flipping. Love the 4-finger app swipe/Mission Control vertical swipe, etc.
I think Lion is going to mean a lot to Apple's continued success in selling more Macs to switchers who come to the brand because of being pleased with iOS products.
My guess is that if you used a Magic Mouse you'd be less enamored with gestures.
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Posted 08 September 2011 - 05:46 PM
Buy a new mouse, that's what I did!
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Posted 09 September 2011 - 05:28 AM
flybynight, on 08 September 2011 - 11:53 AM, said:
I find myself accidentally scrolling a lot when I am working with InDesign documents. But, scrolling is very important, so I don't want to turn it off completely. I just wish I knew what I was doing that sometimes triggers scrolling, or there was a way to adjust the sensitivity, or perhaps it could know not to scroll when the mouse is moving. That seems to be the problem most of the time. I intend to just move the pointer, but it scrolls too.
I've had the same problem in InDesign, and Photoshop and PowerPoint, too. This happens without touching the mouse. All of a sudden the program scrolls to a different page, or to the pasteboard. It got so bad in PowerPoint that I had to go back to using my old wired mouse. I thought that the problem might be with the fact that I bought one of the first new mice, so I recently bought a new one. Same problem.
