[Rorschach]

I found blank>this at blank>www.macrumors.com . It is a screenshot of what spring-loaded folders look like (supposedly) in Mac OS X 10.2.

It looks legitimate, except I don't know what the green arrows are.

[ 05-04-2002: Message edited by: zachs ]

[Nobody]

Assuming that it's legit, I'd say the green arrows were like the grey arrows in OS 9 where you could expand them to see the contents of a folder.

[Rorschach]

OK, I checked the article at MacRumors, and they said that the green arrows indicated folders which had files in them, and the grey arrows indicated folders with no files.

My only concern...what if I wanted to go, say, 10 levels deep? Do I have to start at the Desktop, or can I start where the file I am moving is? If it is the former, there would be a TON of menus all over the screen.

[Nobody]

Before the article was pulled from MacRumors, it said the green arrow was for the app you were using ( the forefront app, which, in this case makes sense, since the Finder window is being used, and the green arrow is pointing at the finder).

It also said there were grey arrows, but I forgot their use.

Marc K

[Nobody]

I pulled this from Spymac..........

G5man provides information on advanced spring-loaded folder operation, which is expected to make an appearance during the WWDC keynote presentation.

"One valid criticism of OS 9 spring-loaded folders is that they present moving targets that can be confusing to novices and distracting to experienced users. Apple is implementing a more elegant user-proposed solution that will be demoed during Steve Jobs keynote at WWDC on May 6, 2002. The enclosed screenshot shows a contextual-menu driven method using multi-column windows that already exist in OS X.

In this particular screenshot the PDF file name 'memo' is dragged from the desktop onto the Finder icon in the dock (while holding the option key to make a copy). At point of contact a multi-column contextual window appears showing the contents of the first column (toolbar icons also show in the first column to shorten the dragging distance and circumvent inadvertent icon displacement). The next drag takes place on top of the 'Documents-G4' drive icon which then reveals its contents in the second column (and so on, so forth). When the mouse button is released (or clicked) on top of the 'Hemisphere International' folder, the copy process initiates and the contextual window disappears.

Also note that when a triangle in the dock is colored green it indicates that the application is foremost. Green-colored triangles in a window indicates that a folder has file contents (gray means the folder is empty)."

[arn]

It was pulled just from the front page... as I felt it was likely a hoax... but we'll see of course...

thread remains with full description at:

http://www.macrumors...3?threadid=4592

[ 05-04-2002: Message edited by: arn ]

[Nobody]

Well, if this is true, this is the kind of thing I've been asking for sinc eos x came out. I sent 8 e-mails (a lot for me, not for apple) begging them to do something like this. Of course, I thought that the SLF should work for folder aliases on the right side of the dock as well.

To quote myself from earlier threads;

""Dragging and dropping" to the dock using a spring loaded dock icon."

Oh well, I can't find the others where I begged for this kinf od thing. What's my point? If it's real, then I am damn excited!

[Nobody]

excuse my ignorance - but can someone please explain to me exactly what spring-loaded folders are, and why they're so useful that people have been fighting like mad for them?

[Nobody]

Spring loaded folders were introduced in Mac OS 8.0. When you dragged a file over a folder and waited for a bit, a new window for that folder opened. Beginning with 8.5, you could alternatively hit the space bar as soon as your icon was over the folder icon (this made it really useful). When you moved the mouse out of that window, the window would close again. Of course, you could repeat this process with folders within that window. Starting with the hard disk icon on your screen, you could navigate through your entire file hierarchy. This allowed you to efficiently move files about without first opening the destination folders.

The reason why SLFs are so immensely useful will be obvious to you as soon as you try it out. It was just a very quick way to move files to different folders on your hard drive, no need for two open windows like in OS X or Windows.

[Nobody]

I never really used or liked SLF in OS 9. Truthfully, I also didn't like file navigation in OS 9. However, I saw from the beginning how great something like that would be in conjunction with the dock.

I'm wondering now if the dock it the only place this feature is active. I mean, in OS X, it would also be nice to see it work with the toolbar, and in regular column view. Only time will tell i guess.

[Nobody]

Sorry, Mozilla got confused.

[ 05-05-2002: Message edited by: VeggieBacon ]

[Rorschach]

A couple of things I noticed with the pic:

1. The "Dock menu" has Close, Minimize, and Zoom buttons. If all you are doing is dragging a file, why would need to close it? And why would you minimize a Dock menu? How would you?

2. Also, the "Dock menu" has a toolbar button. Again, there would be no use for a toolbar if you are simply dragging a file.

3. The Home, Applications, Documents, etc. folders are at the root level of the hard drive. Is it just me, or does that level belong to root? How could you save stuff there if you don't have permission?

Oh well, we'll find out tomorrow... images/icons/grin.gif

(And then we'll be speculating on 10.3 or 10.5 images/icons/tongue.gif )

[Nobody]

Does anyone know if the WDC Steve Jobs keynote will be streamed through quicktime, as the macworld keynotes are?

[Nobody]

Zachs,

If you were to look at the windows on OS 8.0 or later as you used the SLF function, you would notice that that they have the close and shrink boxes too. You can't use them while dragging a file, but they are there. So, the fact that all of the window buttons present in the image does not indicate that this is a hoax. It is simply that those buttons are present in any open window.