[gofigure]

Wish they would bring back iDVD. Still have many friends and relatives that can only see movies or slide shows on a DVD, no broadband can be used. Apple do not forget those that have NO access to purchase broadband.

[gordian238]

What about compatibility? Is there a compatibility link for Mountain Lion as there was for Lion? THE main reason for not upgrading(?) from Snow Leopard to Lion was that my Office 2004 and Quicken 2007 would have had to be replaced-and those were only two applications. I may have to be dragged kicking and screaming into a Mountain Lion upgrade. Why upgrade for the sake of upgrading?

[RalphMartin]

Hopefully you will pay 30 bucks for Mountain Lion only if you are coming from Snow Leopard and probably just 15 if you are coming from Lion.

[Dinkum]

The real question this & other articles don't address is why anyone would bother upgrading to Mountain Lion after all the problems & disappointment of Lion?
I wish I had stuck with Snow Leopard. I don't want to go through another Lion experience - much less pay Apple again for the experience.

[classicmacs01]

gofigure, on 17 February 2012 - 05:09 PM, said:

Wish they would bring back iDVD. Still have many friends and relatives that can only see movies or slide shows on a DVD, no broadband can be used. Apple do not forget those that have NO access to purchase broadband.

iDVD never left. It is still part of iLife '11.

[irwindesign]

It seems to me that Apple is forgetting the user base that got it where it is. That said, this is more of a concern than a complaint. As an illustrator and designer, my MacPro is a production machine, and as such doesn't need or utilize the gimmicky bells and whistles that Apple is tossing into it's new iOS themed operating systems. I don't need or want a $6,000.00 iPhone. Unity across all of Apple's platforms is certainly necessary and commendable, but Apple seems to be catering to the general user rather than graphic pros. Apple's operating systems have always been clean, stable and simple to use. The more stuff they cram into it to appease the public, it seems, the more that can go wrong. We rely on this machine for our daily livelyhood, hopefully it will remain reliable and stable and will continue to be the platform of choice for many years to come. I do realize that the Mac has reached out to a much broader base of users than graphics professionals, but please don't leave us in your wake.

[MacTel]

Sounds pretty solid in features for such a short release cycle. I cannot see Apple releasing another OS beyond Mountain Lion so quickly. I'd expect 10.9 to take about 2 years. I'd pay $29.95 like with Lion but the features are not compelling enough to pay anymore.

[classicmacs01]

Since it is no longer called "Mac OS X", you have to wonder when they will stop calling them Macs. No one is forcing anyone to upgrade. I bought my 2011 iMac because it was the last Mac to ship with Snow Leopard, which I feel is far better than Lion. The Messaging is cool, just like FaceTime on SL, but that feature alone is not worth upgrading. I will still be able to do everything possible with my iMac running Snow Leopard. I don't feel left out at all because I choose not to run the latest software. Just because something new comes out, doesn't require everyone to have it. If the "dropped" list is true in the final version, most of those Macs are approximately 6 years old. I don't think Lion would be a pleasant experience on something that old, so Mtn Lion would be even worse. Leopard required an 867 MHz G4 and I used it on my PowerBook G4, which was the bare minimum requirement. Just because it ran on that PowerBook doesn't mean it was a pleasant experience. It was pretty awful actually. Tiger was far better, and that Mac was 5 years old when Leopard came out. So I am not sure why people are surprised by this. If Mtn Lion ran on those old first Gen Intel Macs, more people would complain about the awful performance, rather than be happy that Mtn Lion actually installed.

Boot Camp users know that Windows XP and Windows Vista was cut off with 2010 MacBooks and 2011 Macs. Those Macs can only use Windows 7. That is not an Apple thing, that is an Intel thing. There are no drivers for XP or Vista on Sandy Bridge hardware. So if someone wanted to transfer their Windows license to a new Mac, they were out of luck. They need to buy Windows 7.

[classicmacs01]

Dinkum, on 17 February 2012 - 05:55 PM, said:

The real question this & other articles don't address is why anyone would bother upgrading to Mountain Lion after all the problems & disappointment of Lion?
I wish I had stuck with Snow Leopard. I don't want to go through another Lion experience - much less pay Apple again for the experience.

You can easily re-install Snow Leopard.

[KPOM]

gofigure, on 17 February 2012 - 05:09 PM, said:

Wish they would bring back iDVD. Still have many friends and relatives that can only see movies or slide shows on a DVD, no broadband can be used. Apple do not forget those that have NO access to purchase broadband.

Within a few months, there may be no Macs that are still sold with DVD drives, at least not internal drives.

classicmacs01, on 17 February 2012 - 06:58 PM, said:

iDVD never left. It is still part of iLife '11.

It is not included in the download version that ships with new Macs.

This post has been edited by KPOM: 17 February 2012 - 07:38 PM

[KPOM]

Serenity, on 17 February 2012 - 04:51 PM, said:

nickf601, on 17 February 2012 - 02:55 PM, said:

Will X11 and Java be supported in Mountain Lion?

Same as Lion, I believe. (So yes.)

According to MacRumors, they are no longer including or explicitly supporting X11, but instead will direct users to install the open-source XQuartz.

http://www.macrumors...source-xquartz/

[HappyMacGuy]

This is a terrific article and it offers us a great deal of insight into Apple's latest cat. Thanks to all the contributors for this incredibly helpful information. The short - 1 year - development cycle will certainly keep Apple in the forefront but I have to admit that it makes my head spin (but that's probably the point - it must make the competitor's heads spin, too)! I was just thinking that the dust is settling sufficiently on Lion to make the leap...

[jimbarg]

Is there even the slightest glimmer of hope that Rosetta could make a comeback? Somehow? Please? Pretty Plllleeeeeaaaase?

[Lebensmude]

Very informative and useful overview - Macworld has always been the best source for such articles! - but you've used the wrong image for highlighting the new features of Mail, i.e. the caption reads: "With Mountain Lion, Mail gets a VIP feature that alerts you when message arrives from selected contacts and an inline find capability.", but the image is a screenshot of Messages, Reminders, and Notes.