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Creative Suite 6 or Creative Cloud: Which one is best for you?

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:01 AM

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  Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:34 AM

When are Adobe, Apple and the rest of these big "Cloud-centric" companies going to get their heads out of the clouds and realise the majority of the world still does *NOT* have superfast ADSL/Broadband to download/upload all this wonderful cloud data?

Just because they all have T1 lines into their Silicon Valley complexes doesn't mean the rest of us do, you know the paying customers, in the real world.
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  Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:50 AM

I think Adobe has their head in a cloud: The last thing I think of when I think of Adobe Suite is social networking or training. I just need the software. Plus, I can't see how those processor-intensive apps will run fast enough over the network. I used to work at Sun and they said "The network IS the computer." But even Sun with their fast network, apps loaded and ran VERY SLOW.

Sure, google docs is ok because it's very simple. But if you travel and have to rely on slow hotel / motel wireless networks to run Adobe cloud apps, you will feel the pain.
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  Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:50 AM

Yeah, this is going to run into a massive brick wall. IT departments that will not allow to these services for security reasons. For better or worse, they don't care about functionality and cool features.

Not to mention $600 a year is way too much for people that don't need most of these Applications. I'm wondering what exactly that team price means.

And with all the socializing going on showing off one's work to others, how long until a lawsuit for copying?

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  Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:54 AM

With this launch, I hope Adobe takes the opportunity to realign their pricing strategy around the CS product line. Right now buying an Adobe product is like buying an airline ticket...no two passengers on the plane have paid the same amount for their seat.
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 06:26 AM

 leicaman, on 02 March 2012 - 05:50 AM, said:

Yeah, this is going to run into a massive brick wall. IT departments that will not allow to these services for security reasons. For better or worse, they don't care about functionality and cool features.

Not to mention $600 a year is way too much for people that don't need most of these Applications. I'm wondering what exactly that team price means.

And with all the socializing going on showing off one's work to others, how long until a lawsuit for copying?



I agree, $600 is WAAAAAY to much for a yearly subscription. I have CS4 right now and could upgrade to CS5.5 for that and I've owned for four years now. That's about $150 per year for the perpetual license if I were to upgrade right now. What are they thinking? People are made of money? Adobe! Please try to think like us common folk.
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  Posted 02 March 2012 - 06:51 AM

What happens when the security protecting Creative Cloud I compromised and people's files are copied then deleted off CC? How secure is Creative Cloud? Or do you just download the app and all of your files reside locally?
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 06:51 AM

 pxforti, on 02 March 2012 - 05:50 AM, said:

I think Adobe has their head in a cloud: The last thing I think of when I think of Adobe Suite is social networking or training. I just need the software. Plus, I can't see how those processor-intensive apps will run fast enough over the network. I used to work at Sun and they said "The network IS the computer." But even Sun with their fast network, apps loaded and ran VERY SLOW.

Sure, google docs is ok because it's very simple. But if you travel and have to rely on slow hotel / motel wireless networks to run Adobe cloud apps, you will feel the pain.


The Creative Clouds apps will not run over the network or in your browser. You will still download the apps and install them on your machine. You will just sign into them with your subscription. You are right, running something like Photoshop over the network is nowhere near an acceptable experience at this time. Someday? Maybe.
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 06:56 AM

 DavidCleveland, on 02 March 2012 - 06:26 AM, said:

 leicaman, on 02 March 2012 - 05:50 AM, said:

Yeah, this is going to run into a massive brick wall. IT departments that will not allow to these services for security reasons. For better or worse, they don't care about functionality and cool features.

Not to mention $600 a year is way too much for people that don't need most of these Applications. I'm wondering what exactly that team price means.

And with all the socializing going on showing off one's work to others, how long until a lawsuit for copying?



I agree, $600 is WAAAAAY to much for a yearly subscription. I have CS4 right now and could upgrade to CS5.5 for that and I've owned for four years now. That's about $150 per year for the perpetual license if I were to upgrade right now. What are they thinking? People are made of money? Adobe! Please try to think like us common folk.


If the people do not come at $50 per month then Adobe will have to lower the price to what the market will bear.

More interesting is the time when they stop offering a perpetual license and require everyone to use CC. I can hear the howls already. Probably bigger than the blow back on Apple and their initially discontuing FCP7 licenses.
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  Posted 02 March 2012 - 07:01 AM

This all sounds very nice for designers. I'd like to see the arguments for and against using it in a production environment, however; at least as many people use CS for prepress.
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  Posted 02 March 2012 - 07:20 AM

How is all this cloud computing going to affect internet providers who are capping data transmissions or throttling down heavy users?

Also, why should users who have opted out of the cloud version and are using software installed from discs not get timely updates. Updates can be delivered over the internet so everyone's software can be on par.
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  Posted 02 March 2012 - 09:14 AM

Adobe can't seem to cope with the complexity of its products as they are currently. Good luck sustaining any kind of customer satisfaction with this upcoming release. Their product line is becoming too fragmented, their delivery is now going to be fragmented and the cost is already prohibitive, which means we'll see tiered services, again, perfectly fragmented. The market will be ripe for another company to come up with a solution. Question is, who's got the capital to invest and is innovative enough pull it off? I'm thinking of a company that's allowed Filemaker to flourish... Back to basics, is what we need.
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 09:19 AM

 dennishenley, on 02 March 2012 - 07:20 AM, said:

How is all this cloud computing going to affect internet providers who are capping data transmissions or throttling down heavy users?

Also, why should users who have opted out of the cloud version and are using software installed from discs not get timely updates. Updates can be delivered over the internet so everyone's software can be on par.


Well - at least it sounds like you won't have to wait 18mos for the 'new features'. They will creep in incrementally over the months. Granted; for non-pro users (power users... whatever moniker you prefer), the new features usually aren't much of a selling point vs. price for upgrade. As a person who uses several of the apps, I find the monthly idea easier to swallow rather than plunking down $1000 when I feel the need to buy the new Suite. (typically I buy every other upgrade cycle)

I am particularly excited to see how Muse develops - doing most of my work in Id/Ps/Ai (and Dw a few times a month) I find myself often vexed with the intricacies of CSS (and related stuff) when I want to publish to web.

I also like the idea of the Team bundle - I typically buy the suite for myself, and 2 other people get single apps (ID) - at least the yearly cost gets a little closer to what we pay when we all upgrade.
And my PC at home can be useful for more than gaming. :)
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  Posted 02 March 2012 - 09:22 AM

"The subscription-based model lets us deliver innovation the moment it's ready—a lot happens in a year.”

Great. More beta-as-aplha software on the horizon.
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