Add USB 3.0 to a Mac Pro with HighPoint's RocketU
#1
Posted 05 March 2012 - 11:31 AM
#2
Posted 05 March 2012 - 12:29 PM
I had read with interest Bare Feats' review of the Highpoint Rocket Quad USB 3.0 card for the Mac, and went ahead and bought it for my 2008 Harpertown Mac Pro, along with four identical USB 3.0 hard drives.
Long and disappointing story short, the card just didn't work properly. I tried to contact their tech support for help, but they were execrable, utilizing an atrocious web-based help system straight out of 1996. I'm not exaggerating. When they did reply, their help was as good as their English.
Doing my own research, my totally unscientific conclusion is that the card does not work with Mac Pros older than 2010. On Amazon, the user reviews mirror my findings: People with 2010 Mac Pros love the card, and those with 2008 models have to suffer the pain of Highpoint's tech support that leads nowhere.
I wrote to Rob at Bare Feats, and he said he would contact Highpoint's engineers to look into this, but I don't know if he ever got an answer.
Regarding MacWorld's review, I'd be curious to know what year Mac Pro they tested in, and if they have a 2008 Mac Pro to test with.
#3
Posted 05 March 2012 - 02:01 PM
#4
Posted 05 March 2012 - 02:11 PM
I just wish Apple would get with the program and add USB 3.0 to Macs (and eSATA, while they're at it). FW drives/enclosures seem to be getting harder to find and I'm tired of paying a premium for them.
Meanwhile, my 2008 Mac Pro still has plenty of life left in it. I did get an eSATA card for it - which 10.6 promptly made obsolete, so I'm more than a little cautious about spending $$$ for something that may not be supported after the next OS update.
#5
Posted 05 March 2012 - 03:46 PM
This card is a must have for any Mac Pro ( early 2008 and later ) user. I beleive this is a great alternative to thunderbolt, as thunderbolt is simply to expensive to implement.
#6
Posted 05 March 2012 - 03:51 PM
bovey2006, on 05 March 2012 - 03:46 PM, said:
This card is a must have for any Mac Pro ( early 2008 and later ) user. I beleive this is a great alternative to thunderbolt, as thunderbolt is simply to expensive to implement.
I have to add that the original issue was with 3tb usb drives, now the new driver supports 3 and 4 tb drives
#7
Posted 05 March 2012 - 04:13 PM
#8
Posted 05 March 2012 - 04:23 PM
The card worked, but only barely, and the problems were such that I had to remove it.
The card did function, and it was fast, though I didn't time it. But only with USB 3.0 drives, and a few (not all) USB 2.0 drives; it did not work with other USB 2.0 devices, despite being marketed as USB 2.0 backwards compatible.
But the problems were too much. First, the ATI 5770 card has a known problem wherein it sometimes puts "snow" on the display when the computer wakes from sleep; the "fix" is to re-sleep the Mac and wake it up again, which gets rid of the snow. Without the highpoint card, this glitch happens about once a week. With the Highpoint card installed, it happens often, to the point where it's more than a nuisance. Also, when I booted my Mac to Windows 7, I often got error messages that my USB port was using too much power, and was being shut down. this required a reboot to correct.
And highpoint's tech support was absolutely useless.
I returned the card.
My conclusion: the power on my Mac's PCIe bus is not quite robust enough, at least with my two graphics cards, to support the Highpoint card.
As an aside, I also subsequently tried a Sonnet Allegro 3.0 card. This card worked, and with no apparent display card issues. However, with the Sonnet card installed, about 1 out 3 times my computer would not wake from sleep. (USB mouse plugged in to a usb 2.0 port, USB keyboard, blue tooth keyboard, and WOL all failed to awaken the Pro. ) Out went the Allegro card. I do wish to report, though, that in marked contrast to Highpoint, I received first rate tech support from Sonnet.
If someone has found a working USB 3.0 solution for a Mac Pro circa early 2008, please post the info!
#9
Posted 05 March 2012 - 04:46 PM
Paddy, on 05 March 2012 - 02:11 PM, said:
Paddy,
After the Highpoint debacle, I ended up buying a NewerTech eSATA card (the cheap one without port multipliers, about $40-50). I'm using it with my Mac Pro and an OWC Elite Quad drive (or something to that effect) in a RAID 5, and am getting about 250 MB / second both read and write. Please note that these numbers came from Blackmagic Design's disk speed tester (free from both Blackmagic Design and the Mac App Store).
The caveat is that you need to be running Lion, and 10.7.2 or higher at that. The issue I've run into is that you have to unplug and replug the eSATA cable back in if you regularly turn off your external hard drive. Otherwise, it won't mount again, and even Disk Utility won't see it until you've done the plug jitterbug.
It's not Thunderbolt speed, but it is way faster than FW800 and has been very stable for my video editing needs.
#10
Posted 05 March 2012 - 07:07 PM
The cost of writing Mac drivers shouldn't (and I'm sure it doesn't) justify a doubling in price, and Mac users don't necessarily have deeper pockets than WinPC users.
I'm using a generic eSATA card (£19.99) in the Mac Pro and though Lion moved the kext files to the Incompatible Software folder, re-installing the drivers got the card working again.
I think I'll just get the same (generic) USB2 card (£19.99) that has served me well since early-2008.
#11
Posted 05 March 2012 - 11:11 PM
#12
Posted 06 March 2012 - 12:23 AM
since then, i have two current 12 core models here with LaCie eSata cards, which -sofar- have been running without problems on Lion
#13
Posted 15 March 2012 - 02:22 PM
Don't forget, this is a RAID controller. It shouldn't surprise anyone that it doesn't work with hubs or misc. devices - it's for storage!
I also ran into trouble with a 3TB drive earlier this year, and can confirm the new driver corrects the issue.
#14
Posted 29 July 2012 - 03:40 PM
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