Macworld Forums

Macworld Forums: DOJ files ebook price fixing lawsuit against Apple - Macworld Forums

Jump to content

  • (2 Pages)
  • +
  • 1
  • 2
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

DOJ files ebook price fixing lawsuit against Apple

#1 User is offline   Macworld 

  • Story Poster
  • Group: MW Bot
  • Posts: 31,664
  • Joined: 30-November 07

Posted 11 April 2012 - 07:40 AM

Post your comments for DOJ files ebook price fixing lawsuit against Apple here
0

#2 User is offline   n4hhe 

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 305
  • Joined: 13-June 05

  Posted 11 April 2012 - 08:01 AM

Just because Amazon raised their prices doesn't mean Apple had anything to do with it.

Apple's pricing is very simple: Its your product so you set the selling price and pay Apple a 30% commission. You may not wholesale to anyone at a price lower than you give to Apple else Apple will quit carrying your product. No one is holding a gun to your head forcing you to do business with or through Apple. The only reason you do business with Apple is because it is to your profit.

I think it is Amazon who is the price conspirator here. It is Amazon who sets their own selling prices. If Amazon is willing to take less than 30% then Apple's market share is theirs for the taking.
1

#3 User is offline   leicaman 

  • Veteran
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 2,847
  • Joined: 04-December 03

Posted 11 April 2012 - 08:14 AM

This is a ludicrous prosecution. Publishers were the victims of Amazon until Apple came along and gave the market some competition. Did it hurt Amazon? Apparently not. Did it let publishers set their own prices? Yes. Did all publishers go with Apple? No. So where's the anti-trust. There's room for both.

Maybe Amazon raised some prices, but plenty of stuff is still $9.99 and much less.

They don't have a case.
Eric

Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. - Martin Luther King, Jr.
0

#4 User is offline   GeorgeKafantaris 

  • Newbie
  • Pip
  • Group: New Members
  • Posts: 2
  • Joined: 18-March 12

  Posted 11 April 2012 - 09:07 AM

Apple and iPhone: Overrated, overpriced and overbearing.
-1

#5 User is offline   wardoggie 

  • Veteran
  • Group: Macworld Insiders
  • Posts: 1,659
  • Joined: 02-September 04

Posted 11 April 2012 - 09:18 AM

View PostGeorgeKafantaris, on 11 April 2012 - 09:07 AM, said:

Apple and iPhone: Overrated, overpriced and overbearing.

Ohhhh, sick burn!
0

#6 User is offline   ppgreat 

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 21
  • Joined: 03-December 07

Posted 11 April 2012 - 09:19 AM

View PostGeorgeKafantaris, on 11 April 2012 - 09:07 AM, said:

Apple and iPhone: Overrated, overpriced and overbearing.

So say the standard bearers of mediocrity.
0

#7 User is offline   dennishenley 

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 84
  • Joined: 22-May 01

  Posted 11 April 2012 - 09:30 AM

>>Just because Amazon raised their prices doesn't mean Apple had anything to do with it.

Oh come on. Where have you been? Amazon was trying to convince publishers that they should sell ebooks at a lower price since the costs of an ebook were lower than a printed book (no shipping, no storage, no returns, etc.)

Then the big 5 met with Apple and they set up a way to raise prices and if Amazon wanted to sell those books they would have to agree with the prices.

After that the big 5 decided to eliminate or seriously restrict ebook sales to libraries.

When Amazon was selling 9.99 books they were taking a loss, not the publishers.

Publishers cliam they are selling content not format and the price should be the same. I'd agree if the content in an ebook were the same, but it isn't. Typos from bad conversions abound.
0

#8 User is offline   TeaEarleGreyHot 

  • Veteran
  • Group: Macworld Insiders
  • Posts: 1,275
  • Joined: 29-September 05

  Posted 11 April 2012 - 09:31 AM

My brother-in-law's cousin's stepdaughter told me that the factory workers where these publisher's ebooks are assembled overseas are suffering from nonrepetitive strain injury, cirrhosis, asthma, emphysema, gout, and pre-diabetes. Furthermore, the workplace is kept at an inhumane 68 degrees F, and do not have adequate access to retail shopping malls. Why isn't the DOJ looking into these grievances?
0

#9 User is offline   wilyliam 

  • Newbie
  • Pip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 7
  • Joined: 02-November 07

Posted 11 April 2012 - 09:51 AM

View PostTeaEarleGreyHot, on 11 April 2012 - 09:31 AM, said:

My brother-in-law's cousin's stepdaughter told me that the factory workers where these publisher's ebooks are assembled overseas are suffering from nonrepetitive strain injury, cirrhosis, asthma, emphysema, gout, and pre-diabetes. Furthermore, the workplace is kept at an inhumane 68 degrees F, and do not have adequate access to retail shopping malls. Why isn't the DOJ looking into these grievances?


Where is this magical place? It sounds exactly like ... America! (Except for the lack of access to malls ...)
0

#10 User is offline   johndrake 

  • Member
  • Group: Macworld Insiders
  • Posts: 651
  • Joined: 11-December 07

Posted 11 April 2012 - 10:26 AM

View PostGeorgeKafantaris, on 11 April 2012 - 09:07 AM, said:

Apple and iPhone: Overrated, overpriced and overbearing.

Ooo, an Android fanboy! :P
0

#11 User is offline   ckasper 

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 288
  • Joined: 19-December 05

  Posted 11 April 2012 - 10:51 AM

Go get 'em DOJ!
0

#12 User is offline   Swift2 

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 291
  • Joined: 21-December 04

  Posted 11 April 2012 - 11:22 AM

Yes, authors of the world! Go for the lower prices! The wholesaler! Take a loss and then make it up in volume!

Seriously, this prosecution is unique and seems to have a unique idea of "price-fixing."

Amazon is portrayed as the friend, friend, friend of content, but they're the ones lowering the prices unilaterally. (Much like the music in the Apple Store. Amazon got their mp3s cheaper than Apple for a year or two because Jobs insisted on fixing the price at 99c for every track. So eventually, Jobs relented and allowed the labels to special-price and promote and all those things. Boom, all the labels cut DRM.

No lawsuits from the DoJ about that. No "price-fixing" prosecutions there. The record biz wanted to control its price, and that meant it would be cheaper, and free of copy restrictions, until Apple caved slightly. Amazon was effectively doing that. Bribes and threats. Bidness. But the labels got the higher price they wanted from Apple. And Amazon colluded in the secret strategy.

Amazon is among many other digital companies, most obviously the cable providers, who have to be aware of the conflict between publisher and wholesaler. Maybe those two roles should be performed by different players.
1

#13 User is offline   John 

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 466
  • Joined: 23-September 09

  Posted 11 April 2012 - 05:20 PM

GK - I know why Australia is so concerned with the dwindling Bilbie population -they are being eaten by the expanding troll population.
0

#14 User is offline   PhilippaPendrell 

  • Newbie
  • Pip
  • Group: New Members
  • Posts: 7
  • Joined: 22-September 11

  Posted 11 April 2012 - 05:39 PM

It's high time someone jumped on the eBook price fixing. It's long been a bugbear of mine that eBooks are so expensive, and Apple's iBooks charges are ridiculous. Their pricing is on par with paper books. It's been obvious since 2007 that there was some serious price fixing going on.
-1

Share this topic:


  • (2 Pages)
  • +
  • 1
  • 2
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

2 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 2 guests, 0 anonymous users