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Ask the iTunes Guy: More iTunes Match questions

#1 User is offline   Macworld 

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 05:31 AM

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  Posted 04 May 2012 - 07:25 AM

I wonder why Macworld writers don't simply ask Apple why it limits the size of iTunes libraries that can be shared in Match.
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  Posted 04 May 2012 - 07:26 AM

Would love to know why The Model by Kraftwerk still matches as The Beachboys' Wouldn't It Be Nice
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  Posted 04 May 2012 - 07:29 AM

To be clear about Dupin and iTunes Match: because third-party apps cannot access your files in the cloud, the latest version of Dupin detects if iTunes Match has been used and copies the tracks you wish to Purge to a discrete playlist. Once they are assembled there, use Option-Delete on the playlist to oblige iTunes to present the necessary confirmation dialogs to remove the tracks, Trash the files, and remove from the cloud.
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 07:36 AM

View PostDougAdams, on 04 May 2012 - 07:29 AM, said:

To be clear about Dupin and iTunes Match: because third-party apps cannot access your files in the cloud, the latest version of Dupin detects if iTunes Match has been used and copies the tracks you wish to Purge to a discrete playlist. Once they are assembled there, use Option-Delete on the playlist to oblige iTunes to present the necessary confirmation dialogs to remove the tracks, Trash the files, and remove from the cloud.


That's good to know, thanks for pointing it out.
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:29 AM

View Postchimerical77, on 04 May 2012 - 07:25 AM, said:

I wonder why Macworld writers don't simply ask Apple why it limits the size of iTunes libraries that can be shared in Match.


Locate a nearby wall and ask it that question. Wait for a reply.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:39 AM

View Postchimerical77, on 04 May 2012 - 07:25 AM, said:

I wonder why Macworld writers don't simply ask Apple why it limits the size of iTunes libraries that can be shared in Match.


My guess would be three fold:

  • Record labels, deeply suspicious of files not overtly purchased, wished to limit how much they would "legitimize" non-purchased music files.
  • Apple probably has data that indicates that the percentage of users with over 25,000 tracks is very small.
  • Apple wishes to apply limits in order to manage the roll out of the service as it scales up.


My original iTunes library is about 30,000 tracks. I created a second iTunes library for iTunes Match that contains about 19,000 tracks, and it works quite well. The good part about that is that it forced me to examine what I really wanted in my library. I know that I have 11,000 fewer tracks available, but for the life of me I don't know what they are and don't miss them - and so it was a good opportunity to clear out junk I simply didn't listen to!
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  Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:53 AM

I have a couple issues. I have some classic '60s music and for some reason iCloud seems to have changed their titles to what I believe is Japanese, any idea why and how to fix this? I want to create a "local" only playlist to sync to my iPhone since sometimes I am in an area with no network connection, but now that I am on iCloud I can not tell iTunes what playlists I want to sync. Anyway around this? The way I have done it so far is to start a song on my iPhone in an area with good internet access, do a genius playlist of that song, and then download all the songs in the new playlist to the iPhone before going out. But this is very limiting. Next, I have some songs that are on my computer that have various information assigned to them like album, but I have a duplicate iCloud version that does not have the information at all, why does it not have the information and how do I get the track with the information up to the cloud. Maybe do the instructions above in the article?
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  Posted 04 May 2012 - 10:14 AM

iTunes match shows ALL of my music as exceeded limit I have 25211 songs in my library but 289 are purchased from iTunes those are also showing as exceeded limit.
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 10:28 PM

View Posthikerdave, on 04 May 2012 - 08:53 AM, said:

I have a couple issues. I have some classic '60s music and for some reason iCloud seems to have changed their titles to what I believe is Japanese, any idea why and how to fix this?


Same thing happened to me. "Get info" on those tracks and just click next, next, next. It corrected the titles for me...
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  Posted 04 May 2012 - 10:31 PM

There is a much better way to "force a re-match" for tracks (with the better algorithm) and it doesn't involve removing your local tracks and re-adding them (which loses some metadata, like playcount, last played date, original date added, rating, etc.)

Instead, just option-launch iTunes and create a new iTunes library with nothing in it, but that's logged into iTunes Match. That way you can see what files are actually matched/uploaded to the cloud... and more importantly, have the ability to remove them from the cloud, without actually removing your local copy.

Then toggle back to your "real" iTunes library, and run a re-match. Voila!
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 10:35 PM

View PostBradPDX, on 04 May 2012 - 08:39 AM, said:

[My original iTunes library is about 30,000 tracks. I created a second iTunes library for iTunes Match that contains about 19,000 tracks, and it works quite well. The good part about that is that it forced me to examine what I really wanted in my library. I know that I have 11,000 fewer tracks available, but for the life of me I don't know what they are and don't miss them - and so it was a good opportunity to clear out junk I simply didn't listen to!


Just bring those 11,000 back into your main library and tag them as Voice Memos. They will still play as music, but not be eligible for iTunes Match. Works a charm.
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  Posted 07 May 2012 - 08:02 AM

How do i delete itunes match, basically i want to start afresh, i added alot of music but i don't want it anymore but when i delete them they are still showing in the cloud, help please. if i do a rest will it erase everything from my Ipad? Just had it 1 week
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  Posted 07 May 2012 - 03:25 PM

Getting back up on my soapbox:

iTunes does NOT sync all other media. Music videos are trapped somewhere between Match and sync. Since they're considered Music in iTunes they are not sync-able if iTunes Match is turned on and since they are ineligible for Match they cannot be downloaded from iCloud (unless they were bought from iTunes; most of mine are from companion DVDs that came with artist CDs).

I spent a long time matching lyrics and artwork to my tracks AND amassing a nice Music Video collection (great to watch when there's not enough time for a show or movie) and for Apple to screw the former up and denying me access to the latter when I PAY for a service is poor form. If I had to do again, I wouldn't have signed up for Match. You don't take away functionality, Apple!
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