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Samsung: "It's okay... we're going to start pushing Windows on our products this fall when Windows 8 is available, therefore reducing dependance on Android."

Apple: "You better."

Then, a year from now...

Apple: "We're still waiting..."

Samsung: "On what...?"

Apple: "North Korea isn't the only ones wanting to go thermonuclear on you..."

Samsung: "Oooooohh, yeah... we'll get right on it."

So the courts are protecting Apple? Even though the judge ruled that there was no patent infringement? apple could "suffer harm" from competition? This is supposed to be a free market. I swear Apple acts like it is afraid of Android.

netcougar, on 21 May 2012 - 07:34 AM, said:

Not quite.

The injection is meant to prevent a company from being harmed by another while the case is going through the courts. There has been no ruling on the case overall, but for an injection to happen Apple would have to successfully argue that it is likely to win the final judgement and that it would receive substantial harm if the injection was not granted. Here, the lower court said Apple failed to make a case that it was likely to win, but the Federal court said Samsung had failed to make the case that would win. Both courts recognized that Apple stands to suffer if the injunction isn't granted (which is pretty obvious, competition is going to make some dent in iPad sales).

Stewsburntmonkey, on 21 May 2012 - 08:47 AM, said:

This response would have meant more it the word "injunction" was used instead of "injection". Interestingly, it appears that the only ones concerned about irreparable harm is Apple. They already have more than 1/2 the tablet market sewed up compared to ALL the other companies offering tablets.
So, they make a tablet, that by the way Apple was not the first use of a tablet, and now want to protect against anyone's use of a tablet of similar size/appeal? I like Apple products. I do NOT like Apple's monopoly-ous attitude and arrogance. This same bullying/whining happened when Microsoft Windows came out. Apple contended that the interface "copied" the MAC OS Desktop. Well, DUH, a computer desktop can't really be much different than what we see today, hence a display of icons or links to applications on that computer.

WHEN: Apple introduces its iPad mini version. I wonder which companies will look for injunctive relief given the size/use appeal.

This post has been edited by four2x4: 21 May 2012 - 12:34 PM

four2x4, on 21 May 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

Would it? I'm not sure how the typos reduced the meaning at all (as you clearly knew what was meant). I think the auto-correction must have been doing that. I did get at least one "injunction" in there properly though.

four2x4, on 21 May 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

I don't agree with the way the current intellectual property system work. I think it is often counter-productive and favors mega-corporation over the smaller companies (where the bulk of innovation actually happens), but I can't fault Apple for operating in the system we have. Companies today are largely forced to engage in this sort of inane legal battle to defend again other companies who would do the same to them.

This post has been edited by Stewsburntmonkey: 21 May 2012 - 12:46 PM

It's frankly beyond ridiculous to allow Samsung to blithely claim that Apple's design was 'obvious'. If it was so damned obvious, why didn't they do it first, instead of Apple? And why did they copy it so slavishly? Is there really only ONE way to turn on the device, by swiping? Is there only one place to put the home button? Is there only the iPad design, and nothing else? What about the ridiculously hideous other copy-cat devices? Can't samsung copy the copies instead of the original?

I can't see how anyone but the most warped Apple hater can begrudge Apple the iPad market. There was NO MARKET prior to the iPad! Nothing! Microsoft spend billions trying to shove WINDOZE on one, before the technology was ready. They sold about a dozen of them (kidding, but not by much. Look it up next to 'dismal failure'.

Android is but a weak imitation of iOS, that's all it ever wanted to be. Anyone that can't see that, and see how this happened (apple creates the market and the Asian copycats totally rip it off without adding one iota of benefit to the consumer and in fact misleading them about specs and contracts) probably can't chew gum and walk at the same time.

WolfgangMozart, on 21 May 2012 - 07:13 PM, said:

Oh Boy, you really seem to live in your iworld. I have both Sammy GT & iPad 2. Unless one is completely retarded, nobody in their right mind can see similarity between the devices. iPad has altogether different aspect ratio & even the construction materials for back are different. iPad is more towards being squarish in shape whereas Tab is more closer to true rectangle. Yes, Samsung used Apple as a benchmark & this pretty much every company does (any company y who identifies company x is market leader). That doesn't mean Samsung slavishly copied.

& if one wants to buy Apple, do you not think that something like obviously different shape, different feel of the product, an Apple logo in the back will help the cause & not to mention all the advertising by Apple & free advertising by fanboys.

I can bet you have never used Sammy GT before otherwise you would know that their slide to open is completely different & their home button is a soft one not a hard one like iPad + Tab has a back button. It also has a widget where you can a slide show of your loved ones in addition to normal background or live background which shifts left or right when you swipe. Android, IMO, pound for pound is a richer & deeper experience. True it is bit laggy (ICS has caught up around 95% in terms of fluidity) but reason for this is because it has got more UI feature unlike IOS where the experience is very simple. One would be vowed if it is the first device but not if you got 2 competing devices head to head in terms of quality.

As far as IOS being superior to Android, the jury is still out there. Your experience might sway towards IOS but others might think differently. Different people think differently. Case in Point as mentioned earlier, I have got both. One is an awesome device ... so intuitive & easy to use, never fails to thrill me whenever I use it & the other one is iPad 2.

& yes, Samsung is right ... Tablet design is more or less an obvious thing not to mention the similar design has already been shown in Science fiction before .. just google it unless you prefer to use safari. It is not something Apple engineer produced out of thin air. The credit is due to them that they made first successful design & for that they are reaping dividends as they have market leadership for better or worse. Going by Apple's philosophy maybe there should be only one car manufacturer or one TV manufacturer or one computer manufacturer. I can't believe that court has let this charade by Apple continue long enough. I personally think that German judge took a bribe. Because if one applies logic this case should be thrown out immediately just because it is too stupid.

Look, I like Android but openly acknowledge that it was Apple who made the market work, so kudos to them. But we live in a world (& we always had) where the first one or the original one is not necessarily the most successful one. If the original one wants to be the most successful one, then they need to start catering to masses as well. Not everyone has money to burn on apps or has patience or time to deal with itunes. Drag & drop has worked for ages & there is a reason for that. USB connectivity is much loved feature due to a reason. True Sammy GT doesn't provide one but one can purchase USB connector kit & voila one has a USB port.

By the way, I really hope that Apple loses. That will put their massive inflated ego to rest & hopefully they put their minds to make better products & find some alternative to syncing everything via itunes.

This post has been edited by Himdeep: 22 May 2012 - 12:35 AM