Ping: What went wrong
Posted 05 June 2012 - 10:00 AM
So I can tell my friends what I'm listening to via ping
- what, so I can't talk to them?
But what if they're online, not face to face
- Facebook! I can post my "pings" to facebook right?
Er... about that...
- So what am I supposed to do?
- You know what, forget it.
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 05:28 AM
Thanks for sharing your thought and comments on "MacBreak Weekly" too. I always learn alot from you.
Posted 06 June 2012 - 07:46 AM
All in all it's proof how Apple doesn't get social. They're not alone in this of course, apart from Facebook and Instagram, and a few things like those, nobody has really succeeded. All attempts by big, established companies that actually do something else have certainly failed.
As fake Zuckerberg says in The Social Network: It's like a party - it needs to be cool first, or nobody's gonna show up. Apple kind of forgot that with Ping. That's OK - Apple does actually rather often fail but its successes are so big they overshadow that - kind of like Michael Jordan in that famous Nike commercial where he recites how many games he's lost, how many times he's missed the last, game-deciding shot, how many times he's failed.
Posted 07 June 2012 - 01:23 AM
I do not know why Social Networks are the hype right now. But I am sure that the target group for social networks is not the same as the target group for Apple products (or Android, or any technical stuff). The people I know who are on Facebook are rather computer illiterate, happy to have one place in this large strange internet where they can do everything without the need to move around a lot. And they are mostly Windows users.
Posted 07 June 2012 - 04:39 AM
I would point out that computers users are mostly Windows users, so it shouldn't be surprising that Windows users also comprise the majority of users of a platform-agnostic site or service. I don't think there's any meaningful disconnect between interest in using a Mac versus using FaceBook.
Posted 07 June 2012 - 08:16 AM
You talk as if interacting on Twitter and having real friends are somehow mutually incompatible. They're not. I've met people over Twitter in the real world, where we've continued our discussions over a real beer: it's just a handy tool for following news, trends and topics. Frankly, these days, dismissing social networks en masse is the mark of a Luddite.
But Ping is/was terrible.
Posted 07 June 2012 - 11:03 AM
You talk as if interacting on Twitter and having real friends are somehow mutually incompatible. They're not. I've met people over Twitter in the real world, where we've continued our discussions over a real beer: it's just a handy tool for following news, trends and topics.
You are, of course, 100% correct that there's nothing fundamentally exclusive between participating in online social networks vs traditional socialization beyond the time that's committed to the "new" that *might* previously have been given to the old. Realistically, though, many people find that the amount of time being reallocated is very large and it *is* coming at the meaningful expense of traditional, local interaction. It's not a universal experience but it is increasingly common. Personal relationships have broken up over one member's withdrawal from that relationship in order to commit more time to social networking. You'd be entirely right to say that obviously that was a relationship that was in trouble anyway, but where it becomes problematic is that the person who has begun to turn away is in a very real way not *available* to reconciliation even if they're abstractly open to it. (And before anyone jumps to any conclusions and starts making projections and assumptions: No, I am not speaking from firsthand experience. I *am* however speaking from both direct observation and published data.)
It's known that on FaceBook in particular promiscuous "friending" is the norm and you do find a lot of people engaging in this detached, impersonal sort of activity *instead* of real-time interpersonal communication. (And yes, there is very distinctly a qualitative difference.)
Depends on what you mean by dismissing. I don't think I'm dismissive of them. I know they're real and they're popular and, as a result, they have real-world significance. But, as much as I acknowledge it, I do not understand the appeal at all. So if you consider simple non-participation to be dismissal then I guess I qualify. And bummer for me, because it's becoming increasingly the case that not participating "enough" in social networking is seen as cause for suspicion.
Posted 09 June 2012 - 08:23 AM
As you say, who has the time plus the eternal attempt to separate you from your cash. This was a marketing ploy first last and always. The software engineering involved would have been better spent fixing iTunes instead of adding more distractions. It was a mess before ping and ping did not improve it.