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Posted 01 June 2012 - 08:31 AM

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  Posted 01 June 2012 - 08:52 AM

Riggggght!

But Apple's not alone in this.
How is the presence of DRM restrictions not anti-consumer? Bought a DRM'ed wmv? Can't watch it on your i-Anything, DVD, or Blu-Ray player. Same is true for protected m4v's, or B&N or Amazon ebooks. Buy it again for the device you want to watch it on, and ensure it all with the DMCA. Really? And we're okay with this?

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 01:06 PM

View Postklahanas, on 01 June 2012 - 08:52 AM, said:

Riggggght!

But Apple's not alone in this.
How is the presence of DRM restrictions not anti-consumer? Bought a DRM'ed wmv? Can't watch it on your i-Anything, DVD, or Blu-Ray player. Same is true for protected m4v's, or B&N or Amazon ebooks. Buy it again for the device you want to watch it on, and ensure it all with the DMCA. Really? And we're okay with this?


Sure you can I for some of what you mentioned -look on the sites or search for the right app. B&N has a great reader for Mac and IOS, so does Amazon the Kindle App. Search the other file formats for the right app. There are more than these two mentioned. You can save the file as an epub and read it very easily also, legal or not I have a suspicion it's not but it works. The Amazon Cloud player has a version for the Mac, for me, it opens up ITunes as a default. You can choose to save something in Amazon's cloud or to your device.

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 02:52 PM

View PostDlBetty, on 01 June 2012 - 01:06 PM, said:

View Postklahanas, on 01 June 2012 - 08:52 AM, said:

Riggggght!

But Apple's not alone in this.
How is the presence of DRM restrictions not anti-consumer? Bought a DRM'ed wmv? Can't watch it on your i-Anything, DVD, or Blu-Ray player. Same is true for protected m4v's, or B&N or Amazon ebooks. Buy it again for the device you want to watch it on, and ensure it all with the DMCA. Really? And we're okay with this?


Sure you can I for some of what you mentioned -look on the sites or search for the right app. B&N has a great reader for Mac and IOS, so does Amazon the Kindle App. Search the other file formats for the right app. There are more than these two mentioned. You can save the file as an epub and read it very easily also, legal or not I have a suspicion it's not but it works. The Amazon Cloud player has a version for the Mac, for me, it opens up ITunes as a default. You can choose to save something in Amazon's cloud or to your device.

Then please tell me how you watch an iTunes protected movie through your dvd or blu-ray player. Your Playstation or XBox?
You're right about the individual tablet applications. What if you don't own a tablet and your want to read a purchased book on your Sony e-reader? Back when PDA's were popular ('90's) I bought a bunch of books on them. Totally useless now. Should I really have to buy them again? Same for my Musicmatch songs.
Like I said though, they're all guilty of this.
"One likes to believe in the freedom of music,
But glittering prizes and endless compromises
Shatter the illusion of integrity."

-Rush
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  Posted 01 June 2012 - 03:52 PM

I just do not understand how an ebook can be priced more or slightly lower than the normally discounted price of the hardcovered book that needs to be printed and distributed to retailers, and then ultimately priced more than the paperback version that also needs to be printed and distributed. And once you buy the book, you can not even sell, lend or pass it on to anyone else.

Rarely does one see a discounted or on sale ebook.
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  Posted 02 June 2012 - 06:36 AM

Apple has worked in collusion with the publishers to attempt to enforce a particular market structure in its favor and at the expense of others. The ebook market is very much in development, and the economics are still very fluid. The Apple cartel is attempting to artificially restrict this fluidity to its own advantage.

This is why you see such bizarreness now like regularly seeing the hard bound version of a book being cheaper than the ebook version on Amazon and elsewhere, it's because of the artificially controlled prices that Apple has imposed. If you were to follow the economic model of print vs ebook, there's no way that an ebook should be $12.99 or even $14.99. The fact that publishers have to mark down a $30 hard bound book to $14.99 is a reflection of how dysfunctional the current market structure for books is.
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