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[klahanas]

JP Carnegie, Andrew Morgan, John Jacob Rockefeller, Charles Astor, etc...

All sound vaguely familiar.....

[lwdesign]

It's not Saturday morning without my weekly dose of the Macalope. I've thanked you many times before for being the voice of reason and sanity in what appears to be a universe populated by pathetic pundits. I rarely laugh out loud when I read by myself, but "Nostradumbassisms" was priceless! When all else fails I know I can always count on the Macalope to put things in the correct perspective.

[Teejay]

I suspect after '10,000 hours' of prediction school, Malcolm Gladwell will be in a better position to comment about Steve Jobs.

[MacTechAspen]

Jobs may be remembered in the same vein as Philo Farnsworth or Igor Sikorsky. Vaguely recognizable names to the average person, but revered among the cognoscenti.

[Flexmeister]

"for whatever reason, Jobs eschewed personal philanthropy."

Wasn't he a Buddhist? Buddhists frown on bragging about their philanthropic endeavours. What Bill Gates is doing is great, but everything seems to come with a press release.

[bettercitizens]

"Referring to the iPad, Mr Kremer told a media and analyst briefing in Sydney on Wednesday: “People might be attracted to some of these shiny devices but technology departments can’t afford to support them.

“If you are giving a presentation and something fails on the software side it might take four days to get it up and running again. I don’t think this race has been run yet.”"

People are attracted to tools that can facilitate accomplishment of their work. Having a good interface and smooth solid operation like the iPad is also huge. As to failing on the software side I have not experienced that yet after using the iPad for more than a year to create my work. The bottom line is that people are able to accomplish what they need to with the "shiny devices" that Apple makes. Perhaps that is why iPad is selling so well.

[Scully]

klahanas, on 09 June 2012 - 06:19 AM, said:

JP Carnegie, Andrew Morgan, John Jacob Rockefeller, Charles Astor, etc...

All sound vaguely familiar.....

You mean J.P. Morgan, and Andrew Carnegie.

[PowerPC]

I don't think Steve Jobs thought all that much about how he'd be remembered. Maybe he knew that excessively praising him would be unfair to everyone else he worked with, people who still have to struggle every day at work. The people memorializing him will just have to let go and give Tim Cook their support.

[klahanas]

Scully, on 09 June 2012 - 06:55 AM, said:

klahanas, on 09 June 2012 - 06:19 AM, said:

JP Carnegie, Andrew Morgan, John Jacob Rockefeller, Charles Astor, etc...

All sound vaguely familiar.....

You mean J.P. Morgan, and Andrew Carnegie.

That was irony my friend...

This post has been edited by klahanas: 09 June 2012 - 07:02 AM

[disorderlycjhp]

klahanas, on 09 June 2012 - 07:01 AM, said:

Scully, on 09 June 2012 - 06:55 AM, said:

klahanas, on 09 June 2012 - 06:19 AM, said:

JP Carnegie, Andrew Morgan, John Jacob Rockefeller, Charles Astor, etc...

All sound vaguely familiar.....

You mean J.P. Morgan, and Andrew Carnegie.

That was irony my friend...

Was it? You've forgotten the important adage: "On the Internet, no one knows you're an iron."

Regarding Dell's Kremer, he's playing from the old "my vaporware is better than your shipping product" playbook, although I suppose in his case that would be "vaporware". The technique worked well for IBM for years, and then for Microsoft. Dell? Not so much. And when have they ever delivered a better product? Cheaper, sure. But better?

[WayneJ]

lwdesign, on 09 June 2012 - 06:29 AM, said:

It's not Saturday morning without my weekly dose of the Macalope. I've thanked you many times before for being the voice of reason and sanity in what appears to be a universe populated by pathetic pundits. I rarely laugh out loud when I read by myself, but "Nostradumbassisms" was priceless! When all else fails I know I can always count on the Macalope to put things in the correct perspective.

Yes, "Nostradumbassisms" alone was easily worth the price of admission.

[robogoboqfy1]

Not sure why we have to choose between Gates and Jobs. Probably they'll both be remembered. But Gates' legacy will be for his philanthropy, historically, with a name attached. Jobs will be not so much a remembrance for what he did, but for what the world will still be actively using in 50 years. Which is better, name recognition or actual manifestation of what someone did, just as affective in 50 years as it is today?

Gates essentially retired and did good things with his fortune. Jobs was still working. Who knows what he would have done in ten or twenty years when and if he retired from Apple. But it doesn't matter. Gates copied and spread Windows computers around the world. Great. Jobs contributed to technological revolutions multiple times over. In 50 years, we'll still feel his influence.

[klahanas]

disorderlycjhp, on 09 June 2012 - 07:57 AM, said:

klahanas, on 09 June 2012 - 07:01 AM, said:

Scully, on 09 June 2012 - 06:55 AM, said:

klahanas, on 09 June 2012 - 06:19 AM, said:

JP Carnegie, Andrew Morgan, John Jacob Rockefeller, Charles Astor, etc...

All sound vaguely familiar.....

You mean J.P. Morgan, and Andrew Carnegie.

That was irony my friend...

Was it? You've forgotten the important adage: "On the Internet, no one knows you're an iron."

Regarding Dell's Kremer, he's playing from the old "my vaporware is better than your shipping product" playbook, although I suppose in his case that would be "vaporware". The technique worked well for IBM for years, and then for Microsoft. Dell? Not so much. And when have they ever delivered a better product? Cheaper, sure. But better?

I'll grant you that there was "some" subtlety to my post, but not much. All first names were wrong (on purpose), all were industrialists, and all were considered robber barons's, while also being philanthropists.Though they've earned their name in history, industrialists don't achieve historical fame to the level of those gifted in the arts, letter's, and sciences.

This post has been edited by klahanas: 09 June 2012 - 08:36 AM