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Hands on with the Retina MacBook Pro
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 10:58 PM
Wow!! That preference pane is honestly the most exciting thing I've seen all day. It means HiDPI will really work in OS X and UI scaling will be great - I know we've been able to use Quartz Extreme in the past, but it's never worked all that well.
As someone who is visually impaired this is awesome news. The clarity and sharpness that retina displays provide really make a difference for me on mobile devices, and Hi-Res on the current MBP has been nice, but without decent scaling, it's also more cumbersome. Combining sharpness + ability to scale elements and still have lots of screen real-estate will be awesome. This might also mean changing my UA zoom settings too which could make overall use of my mac faster.
Yes it's a big deal.
I can't wait to try it!
As someone who is visually impaired this is awesome news. The clarity and sharpness that retina displays provide really make a difference for me on mobile devices, and Hi-Res on the current MBP has been nice, but without decent scaling, it's also more cumbersome. Combining sharpness + ability to scale elements and still have lots of screen real-estate will be awesome. This might also mean changing my UA zoom settings too which could make overall use of my mac faster.
Yes it's a big deal.
I can't wait to try it!
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 11:02 PM
Jason: resolutions display pixels, not dots. Does anyone besides photographers care that there's a difference between PPI and DPI? There's a reason it's called 'pixel density'.
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 11:24 PM
When you publish more info on the new MacBook Pro be sure and tell us what a delight it is to try to upgrade the RAM.
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 11:35 PM
canyonlight, on 11 June 2012 - 11:24 PM, said:
When you publish more info on the new MacBook Pro be sure and tell us what a delight it is to try to upgrade the RAM.
About as delightful as the previous models, would be my guess. Remove a few screws, off comes the back panel, pull out the old RAM, add in the new, replace the screws.
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 11:54 PM
I purchased the new retina display iPad...and while I love the extra processing speed over my original iPad, I can't tell the diff in my raw photos, games, or movies...only text is noticibly different. Which made me wonder, just how large a screen youd have to get, before its noticebly different? Have you compared retina side by side w the optional 1680x1050 15" MBP?
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 11:58 PM
mwflinn, on 11 June 2012 - 11:39 PM, said:
Always quite the innovators' - Are you kidding me, can't believe they've lost the DVD drive. I'm out on this one. Looks like I've bought my last Mac Book.
Who the f still uses DVDs or CDs? I mean sure once a year you might want to burn an audio CD or copy smth but that's about it. If anyone needs so much a superdrive one can always get the external one that Apple sells.
And guess what? In my office there is a Mac Mini 2009 that has attached a USB Floppy Disk Drive simply because that person works on accounting and some financial institutions still work with FDDs (imagine that in 2012 !!!) but hey i'm not bitching they dropped the FDD from Macs.
It's simply a matter of old tech moving aside for the new tech.
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 11:58 PM
I own a late-2011 15" MBP (2.4 GHz Core i7, 8 GB RAM, 256 GB Samsung 830 SSD). For most office productivity work, even with the latest Samsung 6 Gb/s SSD, I find tasks are more I/O-bound than CPU-bound. Thus my one regret about this new model is that, with the absence of the optical drive, one won't have the option of using twin SSDs in RAID 0 (one can't fully do that on mine, either, since the optical bay on the 15" models can't handle a 6 Gb/s SSD; this is not a problem, though, for the 13" models). Well, hopefully by the time I'm in the market for a new MBP they will have a new generation of SSDs (PCIe-based, perhaps) so fast that I/O times are no longer a limitation relative to CPU speeds.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 12:14 AM
Bimmered, on 11 June 2012 - 11:58 PM, said:
mwflinn, on 11 June 2012 - 11:39 PM, said:
Always quite the innovators' - Are you kidding me, can't believe they've lost the DVD drive. I'm out on this one. Looks like I've bought my last Mac Book.
Who the f still uses DVDs or CDs? I mean sure once a year you might want to burn an audio CD or copy smth but that's about it. If anyone needs so much a superdrive one can always get the external one that Apple sells.
And guess what? In my office there is a Mac Mini 2009 that has attached a USB Floppy Disk Drive simply because that person works on accounting and some financial institutions still work with FDDs (imagine that in 2012 !!!) but hey i'm not bitching they dropped the FDD from Macs.
It's simply a matter of old tech moving aside for the new tech.
Yea, I thought I'd miss an optical drive too w my first MBA in 2008....but I didn't. In addition, USB drives are getting so cheap...just purchased 16 GB USB drive for $8, to give work to clients... That said though, RedBox has a pretty large user base... :-)
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 12:57 AM
mwflinn, on 11 June 2012 - 11:39 PM, said:
Always quite the innovators' - Are you kidding me, can't believe they've lost the DVD drive. I'm out on this one. Looks like I've bought my last Mac Book.
If you think that's bad, just wait until you hear what they did with the 3.5" floppy drive.
No floppy == no sale, Apple!
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 01:29 AM
Bimmered, on 11 June 2012 - 11:58 PM, said:
mwflinn, on 11 June 2012 - 11:39 PM, said:
Always quite the innovators' - Are you kidding me, can't believe they've lost the DVD drive. I'm out on this one. Looks like I've bought my last Mac Book.
Who the f still uses DVDs or CDs? I mean sure once a year you might want to burn an audio CD or copy smth but that's about it. If anyone needs so much a superdrive one can always get the external one that Apple sells.
And guess what? In my office there is a Mac Mini 2009 that has attached a USB Floppy Disk Drive simply because that person works on accounting and some financial institutions still work with FDDs (imagine that in 2012 !!!) but hey i'm not bitching they dropped the FDD from Macs.
It's simply a matter of old tech moving aside for the new tech.
Except if you still use software that uses DVDs - Adobe Master Suite Collection, dual-boot in Windows for Autodesk Creative Suite, et al. And for those of us who still want to play a DVD of the latest movie. Not everyone has uber-fast broadband.
What I am disappointed in is the fact that the Retina Display cannot be custom configured with a hard disk based model only the SSD versions. Given that Apple are banging on about Final Cut and HD resolution video, the 1TB drive is an interesting option even at the slower 5400rpm. I can only guess that the space is so tight on those models now, the bits just do not fit together.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 02:14 AM
mrobertson, on 12 June 2012 - 01:29 AM, said:
Bimmered, on 11 June 2012 - 11:58 PM, said:
mwflinn, on 11 June 2012 - 11:39 PM, said:
Always quite the innovators' - Are you kidding me, can't believe they've lost the DVD drive. I'm out on this one. Looks like I've bought my last Mac Book.
Who the f still uses DVDs or CDs? I mean sure once a year you might want to burn an audio CD or copy smth but that's about it. If anyone needs so much a superdrive one can always get the external one that Apple sells.
And guess what? In my office there is a Mac Mini 2009 that has attached a USB Floppy Disk Drive simply because that person works on accounting and some financial institutions still work with FDDs (imagine that in 2012 !!!) but hey i'm not bitching they dropped the FDD from Macs.
It's simply a matter of old tech moving aside for the new tech.
Except if you still use software that uses DVDs - Adobe Master Suite Collection, dual-boot in Windows for Autodesk Creative Suite, et al. And for those of us who still want to play a DVD of the latest movie. Not everyone has uber-fast broadband.
What I am disappointed in is the fact that the Retina Display cannot be custom configured with a hard disk based model only the SSD versions. Given that Apple are banging on about Final Cut and HD resolution video, the 1TB drive is an interesting option even at the slower 5400rpm. I can only guess that the space is so tight on those models now, the bits just do not fit together.
Rip the DVDs to DMGs or ISO for any app that still use DVD to install and then put it on a stick. The same with Windows installations and Linux distros, much faster install time from an USB stick. If you want to play a DVD get the latest MBP (not the Retina) and you'll have the superdrive and problem solved. DVD movie quality is 540p quality anyway, not even 720p, so watching such movies on a Retina wouldn't really make a difference. If you still need Retina for other things your an always buy an external superdrive. Case closed. It's just that simple.
