[Macworld]

Post your comments for Snow Leopard on a new retina-display MacBook Pro? Nuh uh here

[MorrisTheCat]

Yeah, no way is that gonna work. These new Macs ship with a specific build of Lion to accommodate the new hardware components, so no way no how will 10.6 run on them.

[QCassidy352]

Lion does have its flaws. But being able to run icloud is enough reason for me to use it. I'm hoping ML will clean some things up.

[zarmanto]

You heard him, future readers! Now, just get back in your time machine, and return from whence you came!

Wait... what?

[bjbj]

No surprise here. I'd be a little surprised if really any of the machines that have come out since Lion would run Snow Leopard, or run it well enough to make a downgrade worthwhile. For me though, the gestures for multiple desktops make Lion worth having even though it has more bugs than Snow Leopard.

[JakeT]

Mountain Lion is a downgrade from Snow Leopard, however the retina display is nice. I use a 30" external Dell monitor, so the retina display wouldn't be too useful for me. I would like to see a high res external display. If Snow Leopard doesn't support it, I may look into Linux or Windows 7/8.

[Chris Breen]

 JakeT, on 14 June 2012 - 12:52 PM, said:

Mountain Lion is a downgrade from Snow Leopard, however the retina display is nice. I use a 30" external Dell monitor, so the retina display wouldn't be too useful for me. I would like to see a high res external display. If Snow Leopard doesn't support it, I may look into Linux or Windows 7/8.

Not asking in a confrontational way, but would you really, truly abandon the Mac and take up Windows or Linux? I hear these kinds of threats every so often and think "Yeah, sure you will." But maybe people really do it.

So, honestly, is a high-rez display and the lack of support for it in Snow Leopard enough for you to abandon the computer platform you've presumably been working on for years?

[nmpike]

With the speed of the new MBPro, you could easily install Parallels and then install Snow Leopard in parallels and then run snow leopard in full screen mode, thereby making it run on the new MBPro... but you wont get the retina resolution.

I saw the MBPro today with retina, and to be honest, there are only a few apps that take advantage of it, and if you run an app that doesnt (Word, Dreamweaver, Pages) it looks like CRAP. It looks like an old worn out tv from the 70s it so blurry.

I think that is yet more evidence that Steve Jobs isn't around anymore.... he would have made the OS compensate the fonts... i mean seriously if you run an old app on a new retina display it looks hideous.

[Spyderwhite]

Time Machine restore?

[Chris Breen]

 Spyderwhite, on 14 June 2012 - 01:16 PM, said:

Time Machine restore?

Not for laptops, no. It's the same issue -- the drivers don't exist in Snow Leopard. For iMacs, I've heard it's been done.

[AussieTrev]

I'm still struggling to find bugs in Lion. I think it is a great upgrade. I even run it on an old MacBook and works fine.

[Macmuchmore]

 nmpike, on 14 June 2012 - 01:03 PM, said:

With the speed of the new MBPro, you could easily install Parallels and then install Snow Leopard in parallels and then run snow leopard in full screen mode, thereby making it run on the new MBPro... but you wont get the retina resolution.

I saw the MBPro today with retina, and to be honest, there are only a few apps that take advantage of it, and if you run an app that doesnt (Word, Dreamweaver, Pages) it looks like CRAP. It looks like an old worn out tv from the 70s it so blurry.

I think that is yet more evidence that Steve Jobs isn't around anymore.... he would have made the OS compensate the fonts... i mean seriously if you run an old app on a new retina display it looks hideous.

The apps that don't take advantage of the new Retina display are not THAT bad. Yes, the fonts/window UI are not rendered perfectly, but everything is more than tolerable. I just cannot believe anyone would wait to buy this notebook until ALL the applications they use support the higher resolution. That is just plain silly. Most of the applications I use (i.e. not from Apple), do not take advantage of this new screen - but using the notebook is such a pleasure that I barely even notice the poorly rendered UI elements/fonts. This is one sweet machine and I KNOW anyone who gets to use one will be super happy with it. If you are so obtuse that every UI element on a computer be "perfect" then you should just stay off of computers in general. NOTHING in life is perfect - especially software UI - and that is how it should be. If life were full of perfection, there would be nothing to strive for. The bright side to this situation is that as time goes by, every app that is updated to use the screen will be one more thing to love about this notebook.

Lastly, this is anything BUT evidence of a decline since S.J. left this world. All this is, is a chicken before the egg scenario. Applications were not written to take advantage of screens with this high resolution, nor were they written to take advantage of the OS changes Apple made to Lion to enable this screen on the OS. Why would they? At the time they were written, these things did not exist! So now you have a screen that exists, but no software that works well with it (other than Apple's). It will take time for the application developers to incorporate these changes into their code. This screen (and the OS changes to enable it) was obviously kept fairly secret at Apple, so it is reasonable to assume the developers had no way to code for it until AFTER Apple released it.

This post has been edited by Macmuchmore: 14 June 2012 - 02:33 PM

[Deromax]

Is there such a thing as a Mac that can be downgraded to a lower OS version than the installed version at the purchase time? The new MBP should not be any different!

[CraigArko]

Buy a copy of Snow Leopard Server (or Leopard Server) on eBay and run it in a VM. Works pretty well on Lion.