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Meet the new Mac Pro, about the same as the old Mac Pro

#1 User is offline   Macworld 

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 03:31 AM

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  Posted 22 June 2012 - 03:41 AM

Really sad it was a mere spec-bump and not really where people wanted to seem improvements.
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  Posted 22 June 2012 - 03:50 AM

Talk to me when you have a real update to a much needed Mac Pro!
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  Posted 22 June 2012 - 04:02 AM

I have a 2009 Mac Pro with 16gb Ram, it was the best you could get at the time. The other day it started having problems so while I fixed them I started using day to day a 13" i7 MBP with 8gb Ram hooked up to the same 30" Eizo. I am suprised how much faster the MBP is than the MP. So I'll pass on the new Mac Pro's and wait for Cooks 'really great' Mac Pro next year.
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Posted 22 June 2012 - 04:04 AM

View Posticerabbit, on 22 June 2012 - 03:41 AM, said:

Really sad it was a mere spec-bump and not really where people wanted to seem improvements.


I think their focus is in the right place. USB 3, Thunderbolt and other improvements require changes to the motherboard. If they are redesigning the motherboard they may as well do the complete case redesign. They clearly have their hands full with all of the updates they have been releasing with the iPad 3 the New Macbook Pros and the iPhone 5. Not to mention the iTV and its accessories. I think they are working to do for the desktop what they have done for the other computer markets. Redefine again it with innovation while bringing the prices down.
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  Posted 22 June 2012 - 04:12 AM

Here's the video of the new Mac Pro Apple didn't want you to see.

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  Posted 22 June 2012 - 04:56 AM

Macworld, it'd be interesting to get Speedmark scores using a Mac Pro with an SSD installed. Comparing it with the Macbook Pro with SSD is clearly skewing the results. Sure, stock vs stock, your scores are accurate. But for comparison sakes, throw an SSD in each Mac Pro configuration to give us some color on how the Mac Pro performs with equal drive speeds. Please.
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  Posted 22 June 2012 - 05:00 AM

I've been using Macs for about 4 years now. Before that I was a PC user who built my own machines (mostly due to dissatisfaction with what the big box stores had available).
I just got a new MacBook Pro and upgraded the ram to 16GB (Apple will only sell you 8). I put in my own SSD (Saved a ton and got a better one than they sell.) I replaced the pointless DVD drive with an internal 1TB hard drive. It took me longer to shop for the parts than the actual installation took. I got a better, faster machine than Apple would sell me and saved $790 in the process.
I guess what I'm saying is, Stop whining and upgrade your own damn machines!!! If you really need a Mac "PRO", you should have a little bit of technical skills and intelligence. Buy better, faster, cheaper parts and install them yourself. It's really not that hard.
Go to Google
Type in "how to upgrade mac pro motherboard"
Find tons of good tutorials
Stop waiting around for Apple (or Dell, HP, etc.) to chew up the food and spit it into your mouth. You're not a baby bird.
The few hours that you invest will be recovered in improved performance.
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  Posted 22 June 2012 - 05:14 AM

3.5 Stars? That is just embarrassing. I can't believe after how terrible an upgrade this is that these machines would get more than 2.5. Little bit of journalistic failure there IMO. Part of the rating is the VALUE, and the value is extremely poor compared to the competition.
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Posted 22 June 2012 - 05:17 AM

View PostVitaminCM, on 22 June 2012 - 05:00 AM, said:

I've been using Macs for about 4 years now. Before that I was a PC user who built my own machines (mostly due to dissatisfaction with what the big box stores had available).
I just got a new MacBook Pro and upgraded the ram to 16GB (Apple will only sell you 8). I put in my own SSD (Saved a ton and got a better one than they sell.) I replaced the pointless DVD drive with an internal 1TB hard drive. It took me longer to shop for the parts than the actual installation took. I got a better, faster machine than Apple would sell me and saved $790 in the process.
I guess what I'm saying is, Stop whining and upgrade your own damn machines!!! If you really need a Mac "PRO", you should have a little bit of technical skills and intelligence. Buy better, faster, cheaper parts and install them yourself. It's really not that hard.
Go to Google
Type in "how to upgrade mac pro motherboard"
Find tons of good tutorials
Stop waiting around for Apple (or Dell, HP, etc.) to chew up the food and spit it into your mouth. You're not a baby bird.
The few hours that you invest will be recovered in improved performance.



By their own admissions the Hackintosh thing is a hobby at best. The machines are never able to stay current with the latest OS and updates, and require frequent tweaking to work well. Hackintosh is not the answer. Apple getting its &@^! together IS.
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Posted 22 June 2012 - 05:28 AM

View PostPhotonerd, on 22 June 2012 - 05:17 AM, said:

View PostVitaminCM, on 22 June 2012 - 05:00 AM, said:

I've been using Macs for about 4 years now. Before that I was a PC user who built my own machines (mostly due to dissatisfaction with what the big box stores had available).
I just got a new MacBook Pro and upgraded the ram to 16GB (Apple will only sell you 8). I put in my own SSD (Saved a ton and got a better one than they sell.) I replaced the pointless DVD drive with an internal 1TB hard drive. It took me longer to shop for the parts than the actual installation took. I got a better, faster machine than Apple would sell me and saved $790 in the process.
I guess what I'm saying is, Stop whining and upgrade your own damn machines!!! If you really need a Mac "PRO", you should have a little bit of technical skills and intelligence. Buy better, faster, cheaper parts and install them yourself. It's really not that hard.
Go to Google
Type in "how to upgrade mac pro motherboard"
Find tons of good tutorials
Stop waiting around for Apple (or Dell, HP, etc.) to chew up the food and spit it into your mouth. You're not a baby bird.
The few hours that you invest will be recovered in improved performance.



By their own admissions the Hackintosh thing is a hobby at best. The machines are never able to stay current with the latest OS and updates, and require frequent tweaking to work well. Hackintosh is not the answer. Apple getting its &@^! together IS.


He is not advocating Hackintoshes, he is advocating updating MacPros on your own, with "aftermarket" parts. Such as USB3 boards, SSDs, etc...
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  Posted 22 June 2012 - 05:31 AM

I was surprised to read Tim Cook's (alleged) email reply promising "something really great for later next year." That's certain to put a huge damper on sales for this iteration, for more than a year until "something really great" is released. I guess sales of the Mac Pro have bottomed out enough that it didn't really matter, and Cook was hoping to keep pros from jumping ship.

If they were even to have put a modern video card in this machine, it would have been more interesting. As is, it truly is a bit embarrassing for Apple.
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  Posted 22 June 2012 - 05:44 AM

Maybe they decided not to mess with perfection!
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Posted 22 June 2012 - 06:00 AM

View Posticerabbit, on 22 June 2012 - 03:41 AM, said:

Really sad it was a mere spec-bump and not really where people wanted to seem improvements.


What's really sad is that the speed-bumped Mac Pro is so dramatically out-classed by the Retina MacBook Pro. Laptops are supposed to be the best tech you can cram into a small package... they're not really supposed to wind up being the fastest computer you can buy, from a given manufacturer.

Frankly, I can't help wondering if someone in the Mac Pro design team just recently got fired (or at a minimum, seriously reprimanded) for missing the WWDC2012 deadline. Then again, if Apple releases a genuine upgrade to the Mac Pro at the beginning of their fiscal year (October) then perhaps all of this hand wringing will have been premature...
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