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What exactly does the Finder's green button do?

#29 User is offline   SprayPass 

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 11:14 AM

View Postbastion, on 26 June 2012 - 07:24 AM, said:

View PostMyronSlaw, on 26 June 2012 - 07:03 AM, said:

Green Plus Button:

1 If your window's size is smaller than the content area, it resizes the window so that the content fits
* hitting it again after doing this takes it back to the size it was before.

2 If part of the window is outside of your screens frame, it repositions it so that the entire window is within the screens frame (minus the dock and menu bar), resizing as necessary.

3. If the window is already showing all content and fits between the menubar and the dock, the button does nothing.

This is what I know for sure (tested it on a safari window cause I usually didn't think about it. I think anything else depends on how the developer lays out the UI.


1 is often the case.
2 is almost always the case.
3 should never be the case.

Assuming Cocoa, the default behavior of the zoom button is to toggle the window between two sizes/locations. The first is the last one established by explicit user actions (or as created by the application if the user has done nothing) and the second is essentially the entire area of the screen that contains most of the window when the button was clicked. If a maximize size has been set for the window which is smaller than the screen, the default behavior complies with that. Most developers should (and in my experience most do) override the default behavior at least to make the zooming behavior appropriate for the actual content or nature of the window. A handful go further, with varying success, invoking state changes beyond trivial geometry. (I never did much Carbon GUI programming; I have no idea how automated the behavior of the zoom button was in the Carbon event model. In the pre-Carbon Toolbox, there was no default behavior; the reaction to the zoom button was entirely at the coder's discretion.)


I've been playing with the green button in Lion and I find that it now is more than a simple toggle between two states. With a finder window, it will toggle through four or five different sizes and shapes before returning to the original conformation. Exactly how many states and shapes depends on whether the window is showing icons or is in list view etc. It's kind of a cool upgrade actually – lets the user quickly find a window size/shape he likes. I hadn't noticed that change until I started playing around with it just now.
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#30 User is offline   nemanja 

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  Posted 28 June 2012 - 01:29 AM

As user <petebocken> mentioned, simply install RightZoom and you will fix all of green button's problems. The button retains its native functionality, and with a Control-click, you get the full screen (fill-screen) function.
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#31 User is offline   Hender 

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  Posted 29 June 2012 - 07:34 AM

In regards to Apple's colored buttons, when is apple going to set more separation between the Red button and the Back button? We have all cussed this at times, including some Apple genius workers.
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#32 User is offline   Petew 

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  Posted 29 June 2012 - 08:29 AM

My "green button utility" favorite is SizeWell (most of these utilities are good, pick what suits you best.
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  Posted 29 June 2012 - 09:13 AM

This one button shows how MacOSX got way more complicated, less user-friendly, and didn't really follow long-established Mac UI conventions. In any mac version before OSX that resized windows, this expanded in a way that made perfect sense. Now, it's anybody's guess.
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Posted 29 June 2012 - 12:03 PM

View Postericole, on 29 June 2012 - 09:13 AM, said:

This one button shows how MacOSX got way more complicated, less user-friendly, and didn't really follow long-established Mac UI conventions. In any mac version before OSX that resized windows, this expanded in a way that made perfect sense. Now, it's anybody's guess.


This is not true. The situation with the zoom button today is no different than when it was introduced over a quarter century ago. The overwhelming majority of windows toggle between two sizes. A minuscule handful do something different.
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  Posted 29 June 2012 - 10:58 PM

... and if You have zoomed in on a Safari page, it will fill the screen so that the text area will fit into the magnified state.
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#36 User is offline   CanAmSteve 

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  Posted 02 July 2012 - 04:25 AM

Inconsistent is a mild word to describe really poor interface design. Users should not have to decipher what a button will do in specific apps.

Next, can you tell me why a right-click won't allow me to paste a copied email address into the "to" field in Mail? The contextual menu only appears in the Subject field.
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  Posted 03 July 2012 - 10:16 AM

Buy Moom ($5 when I got it) and have this button behave in a useful and predictable way
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#38 User is offline   dolph0291 

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  Posted 06 July 2012 - 08:46 AM

Thank you for this. I always assumed that the green button was to maximize to full screen, which is something I never want. So I never used it. I am often resizing Finder windows manually to show all the content and now I see I have a tool that does that for me. PS Someone here said it doesn't work in Lion. I can't speak to that as I am using Mountain Lion and it does indeed work, and work well.
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