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Mountain Lion and the ancient AirPort Base Station

#15 User is offline   vulpine 

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  Posted 01 August 2012 - 05:07 AM

Why do you need to use a $20 application when a right-click > View Package Contents is pretty much all you need to pull the disk image out or even find the app itself?

If you're a UNIX admin, you can also use the command-line interface and pull it that way.
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#16 User is offline   Chris Breen 

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 02:33 PM

View Postvulpine, on 01 August 2012 - 05:07 AM, said:

Why do you need to use a $20 application when a right-click > View Package Contents is pretty much all you need to pull the disk image out or even find the app itself?


That's the first thing I tried, but no, doesn't work. The option to show package contents doesn't appear.

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  Posted 01 August 2012 - 02:45 PM

Hey y'all. I created a rudimentary Automator script that automatically extracts the application out of the installer package. Check it out: http://frank.is/moun...irport-utility/

If you have any issues, let me know on twitter. I probably won't be checking these comments for long. @franktisellano
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  Posted 02 August 2012 - 02:06 PM

Every time I read Macworld or other Mac publications, I find more reasons why I will not be upgrading to Mountain Lion from Snow Leopard.
It is not like users are demanding that a floppy disc still be included… Just that when the OS upgrades, keep it simple and keep things working that are not all that old or strange and that are useful to many users. Apple had a great record of doing this very thing in the transition from 9 to 10. But this single update within one OS seems to not be worth it when balanced against all the hassle it causes and devices it breaks.
The rest of us want the Mac back for the rest of us.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 05:35 PM

View Postsensel, on 02 August 2012 - 02:06 PM, said:

Every time I read Macworld or other Mac publications, I find more reasons why I will not be upgrading to Mountain Lion from Snow Leopard.
It is not like users are demanding that a floppy disc still be included… Just that when the OS upgrades, keep it simple and keep things working that are not all that old or strange and that are useful to many users. Apple had a great record of doing this very thing in the transition from 9 to 10. But this single update within one OS seems to not be worth it when balanced against all the hassle it causes and devices it breaks.
The rest of us want the Mac back for the rest of us.



I completely agree. I have a 2009 MacBook Pro with Snow Leopard and it works like a champ! No issues, no bugginess, and I'm happy to stay where I am. In my humble opinion, I am an average user. I surf the web, use MS office occasionally to write with and use iPhoto keep most of my pictures. I even use Dropbox and Google to sync my calendar. When I want to save a file, I save it. When I want to print, I print something. Will a new OS do this any better? Nope. It is not worth the time to make sure all my programs are up to date to work with a new operation system. I think with my Macbook Snow Leopard is the perfect operating system. It still blazingly fast, responsive, and able to run PowerPC programs should the need arise. Ok, that last one was a bit of stretch.

People, stop upgrading a machine that is happy where it is! I agree if you just bought a mac in the last year then Mountain Lion may be worth the upgrade but I rather not get "some" of the features but get a slower and more convoluted OS. I remember having this same argument 10 years ago with my Powerbook Pismo (remember those). I had OS 9.2.2 and saw no reason to move to OS X. When I finally put 10.3.9 on that laptop, it worked ok. I still preferred to go to OS 9 to get work done. So step up to the present day. Snow Leopard is Mac OS 9 of its time. A robust OS, that has some years left in it for those older machines willing to relax and enjoy their golden years without trying to always keep up with the younger generation of new machines that live in the iCloud.
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  Posted 02 August 2012 - 07:55 PM

I would not consider an AirPort Express "ancient!!" Apple is still selling iterations of the AirPort Express - the internals have been upgraded, and now there's a LAN port to supplement the WAN port - but the design and form factor of the currently selling AirPort is basically identical to the original.

Ancient is the original UFO-style AirPort Base Station from 1999. :D
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 08:04 PM

View Posttronomagic, on 02 August 2012 - 05:35 PM, said:

View Postsensel, on 02 August 2012 - 02:06 PM, said:

Every time I read Macworld or other Mac publications, I find more reasons why I will not be upgrading to Mountain Lion from Snow Leopard.
It is not like users are demanding that a floppy disc still be included… Just that when the OS upgrades, keep it simple and keep things working that are not all that old or strange and that are useful to many users. Apple had a great record of doing this very thing in the transition from 9 to 10. But this single update within one OS seems to not be worth it when balanced against all the hassle it causes and devices it breaks.
The rest of us want the Mac back for the rest of us.



I completely agree. I have a 2009 MacBook Pro with Snow Leopard and it works like a champ! No issues, no bugginess, and I'm happy to stay where I am. In my humble opinion, I am an average user. I surf the web, use MS office occasionally to write with and use iPhoto keep most of my pictures. I even use Dropbox and Google to sync my calendar. When I want to save a file, I save it. When I want to print, I print something. Will a new OS do this any better? Nope. It is not worth the time to make sure all my programs are up to date to work with a new operation system. I think with my Macbook Snow Leopard is the perfect operating system. It still blazingly fast, responsive, and able to run PowerPC programs should the need arise. Ok, that last one was a bit of stretch.

People, stop upgrading a machine that is happy where it is! I agree if you just bought a mac in the last year then Mountain Lion may be worth the upgrade but I rather not get "some" of the features but get a slower and more convoluted OS. I remember having this same argument 10 years ago with my Powerbook Pismo (remember those). I had OS 9.2.2 and saw no reason to move to OS X. When I finally put 10.3.9 on that laptop, it worked ok. I still preferred to go to OS 9 to get work done. So step up to the present day. Snow Leopard is Mac OS 9 of its time. A robust OS, that has some years left in it for those older machines willing to relax and enjoy their golden years without trying to always keep up with the younger generation of new machines that live in the iCloud.


There's something to be said for waiting for a more stabilized iteration of a new OS where all of the bugs have been ironed out!!

I think that 10.3 through 10.6 were excellent iterations of OS X. 10.4 is a definite favorite since it runs on a PowerPC G3 and still includes Classic, and 10.5 since it still works on PowerPC, and 10.6 since it can still run Rosetta.

I think that the last revision of Snow Leopard is definitely a winner and probably the pinnacle of "Pre-iOS-ification" of OS X.

That being said, I am having few problems with Mountain Lion, I like the streamlined workflow and reduced mental load for people who have iPads and iPhones as well as Macs, and I think Safari 6 has fixed many of the awful problems I had attempting to load multiple tabs in Safari 5.
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  Posted 03 August 2012 - 09:11 AM

I think it's bad policy to have an Apple product which requires a third party software to configure an Apple operating system to enable the Apple product. Especially when it costs $. One of the reasons some people are always anti Apple.
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  Posted 04 August 2012 - 11:12 PM

I did a clean install of Mountain Lion booting from my thumb drive and then migrated everything else from my Time Capsule. I currently have Airport Utility Version 6.1 and have absolutely NO problems with it. I am guessing that 6.0 or 6.1 came with Mountain Lion. The problem may be with upgrading rather than doing a completely CLEAN install.
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  Posted 05 August 2012 - 05:17 AM

I'm still waiting for tips to optimize my 2nd generation Time Capsule (2009 1TB) to play nice with my 2010 iMac AND iOS devices (iPhone 3GS, new iPad, iPhone 4S, Apple TV 2 & 3).

If I leave everything set to automatic, my iMac is fine, but iOS devices tank when running a speedtest. I've tried resetting the network and Network Settings on my iOS devices. The only thing that works is to play around with channels to see which gives me the best results.

It's a long, tedious process that involves many reboots of my Time Capsule. Does the newest model work better? I'm still holding off until Apple implements 802.11ac before I upgrade (Time Capsule and iMac).
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 03:59 AM

View Postredgeminipa, on 05 August 2012 - 05:17 AM, said:

I'm still waiting for tips to optimize my 2nd generation Time Capsule (2009 1TB) to play nice with my 2010 iMac AND iOS devices (iPhone 3GS, new iPad, iPhone 4S, Apple TV 2 & 3).

If I leave everything set to automatic, my iMac is fine, but iOS devices tank when running a speedtest. I've tried resetting the network and Network Settings on my iOS devices. The only thing that works is to play around with channels to see which gives me the best results.

It's a long, tedious process that involves many reboots of my Time Capsule. Does the newest model work better? I'm still holding off until Apple implements 802.11ac before I upgrade (Time Capsule and iMac).


I have the same devices as you and run Mountain Lion without problems. I'm not trying to be a PITA, just saying there might be another issue in play. The speed test hasn't caused problems for me (speediest.net). Have you tried asking macgeekgab?
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  Posted 06 August 2012 - 04:17 AM

Coincidentally, I ran into this exact problem yesterday. Figured my old AirPort Express was toast. Many thanks for this tip, Chris!
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  Posted 06 August 2012 - 04:25 AM

Once again, we have to spend more money to get to use what we've already bought...sometimes even purchasing something several times (from the developer, in a bundle, from the App Store...).

Very, very annoying.
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  Posted 06 August 2012 - 05:07 AM

Well I got around that problem (that I didn't have) by my daughter giving me a Linksys router. I had a 2004 Apple router and it suddenly got to where it kept cutting off and I just got something cheaper and works as well.

Troubling the shift away from USB connections (Notice that Apple is ignoring USB 3.0 and going to Thunderbolt) but then again computer move on. Now where is that 5.25" floppy with the PC Write application, I need to put it in my one disk drive no hard drive Tandy and type a letter. (This was my first set up)
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