Solving the mystery of the empty PDF form
Posted 06 February 2013 - 06:23 AM
On the windows side, the form appears blank. But if you select one of the fields you can see the data in that field until you deselect it.
Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:52 AM
To be clear, the PDF has to have had the forms created right? It's not like Preview can take any PDF and detect where to enter the form, nor can it make them right? I'd need Acrobat for that.
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:05 AM
Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:17 AM
So I changed my mind. This does work. But I don't understand the "rasterize" piece of it. If that were true, you wouldn't be able to select the text.
Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:43 AM
See http://blogs.adobe.c...x_previewa.html for more info.
The script at the Adobe blog page above can be installed in Acrobat (not Reader) and fixes the forms filled out in Preview, which can help the recipients of the forms, but still doesn't address the root of the problem.
Of course, the best work-around is to simply use Acrobat or Reader rather than Preview until this issue is fixed by Apple.
Dan - why not ask the folks at Apple why they've not fixed it? It's been a known issue for almost FOUR years now.
Posted 06 February 2013 - 10:04 AM
Because the problem isn't that preview isn't filling in the DATA correctly, it's that they aren't setting a metadata value right. What Acrobat et al should be doing is failing more gracefully. "Oh, you filled in that field, but didn't set a metadata flag. However, since those fields do contain data, I'll display that data anyway."
The idea that the Acrobat team is completely correct here is silly.
Posted 06 February 2013 - 10:21 AM
Indeed; it's not rasterized at all, just composited.
Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:38 PM
Let me just echo the recommendation here — I've been using this script for a few months now and it works as advertised, both in Windows and Mac environments. What should be is nice and I do wish Apple would fix this, but in the real world you have to be able to handle what your clients throw at you. So I'd recommend this script for anyone unsure of where your forms are getting filled out. And I'd recommend using Adobe's own apps to fill out forms if you want to be sure the person on the other end will see your data.
Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:42 PM
I didn't say that Preview wasn't filling in the data correctly. It's not setting the appearance flag correctly, causing that data not to show (unless the field is clicked on - or "in focus") And sure, you could go back and forth pointing fingers and laying blame, (and get nowhere) but bottom line, Adobe created PDF and why should they have to adapt to Apple's non-compliance? Sure - it would be nice if Acrobat and Reader weren't quite so sticky about things, but that's not the case and I don't see Adobe willingly devoting any resources to this issue; after all, why would they want to encourage people to use Preview over their own products? It truly doesn't matter who is "correct" - Adobe has acknowledged the problem, provided scripts on their website to help resolve it for recipients of filled in forms from Preview users, and have informed Apple that they need to fix Preview. So, given this scenario, whether we like it or not (and I'm no apologist for Adobe, believe me) it makes sense for Apple to fix the problem. But they haven't. I'd love to know why not.
There is an additional script on Adobe's website here: http://kb2.adobe.com...psid_88564.html
Posted 06 February 2013 - 01:10 PM
Printing a form filled out in Preview to a PDF file and then opening that file in AR will both show all the filled in fields and prevent AR (and Preview) from editing it.
The problem with filling out the form in AR instead of Preview is that AR won't let you save the filled out form! You are only allowed to print it (to an actual printer, print-to-PDF is blocked in AR.)
Posted 08 February 2013 - 08:54 AM
For real security, print or save to PDF and enable the security (encryption) options.